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Obama’s Science Czar Said a Born Baby ‘Will Ultimately Develop Into a Human Being’
CNS News ^ | Tuesday, July 28, 2009 | Terence P. Jeffrey

Posted on 07/28/2009 11:19:53 AM PDT by presidio9

President Obama’s top science adviser said in a book he co-authored in 1973 that a newborn child “will ultimately develop into a human being” if he or she is properly fed and socialized.

“The fetus, given the opportunity to develop properly before birth, and given the essential early socializing experiences and sufficient nourishing food during the crucial early years after birth, will ultimately develop into a human being,” John P. Holdren, director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy, wrote in “Human Ecology: Problems and Solutions.”

Holdren co-authored the book with Stanford professors Paul R. Ehrlich and Anne H. Ehrlich. The book was published by W.H. Freeman and Company.

At the time “Human Ecology” was published, Holdren was a senior research fellow at the California Institute of Technology. Paul Ehrlich, currently president of The Center for Conservation Biology at Stanford, is also author of the 1968 bestseller, “The Population Bomb,” a book the Washington Post said “launched the popular movement for zero population growth.”

“Human Ecology: Problems and Solutions” argued that the human race faced dire consequences unless human population growth was stopped.

“Human values and institutions have set mankind on a collision course with the laws of nature,” wrote the Ehrlichs and Holdren. “Human beings cling jealously to their prerogative to reproduce as they please—and they please to make each new generation larger than the last—yet endless multiplication on a finite planet is impossible. Most humans aspire to greater material prosperity, but the number of people that can be supported on Earth if everyone is rich is even smaller than if everyone is poor.”

The specific passage expressing the authors’ view that a baby “will ultimately develop into a human being” is on page 235 in chapter 8 of the book, which is titled “Population Limitation.”

At the time the book was written, the Supreme Court had not yet issued its Roe v. Wade decision, and the passage in question was part of a subsection of the “Population Limitation” chapter that argued for legalized abortion.

“To a biologist the question of when life begins for a human child is almost meaningless, since life is continuous and has been since it first began on Earth several billion years ago,” wrote the Ehrlichs and Holdren. “The precursors of the egg and sperm cells that create the next generation have been present in the parents from the time they were embryos themselves. To most biologists, an embryo (unborn child during the first two or three months of development) or a fetus is no more a complete human being than a blueprint is a building. The fetus, given the opportunity to develop properly before birth, and given the essential early socializing experiences and sufficient nourishing food during the crucial early years after birth, will ultimately develop into a human being. Where any of these essential elements is lacking, the resultant individual will be deficient in some respect.”

In the same paragraph, the authors continue on to note that legal scholars hold the view that a “fetus” is not considered a “person” under the U.S. Constitution until “it is born.” But they do not revisit the issue of when exactly the “fetus” would properly be considered a “human being.”

“From this point of view, a fetus is only a potential human being [italics in original],” wrote the authors. “Historically, the law has dated most rights and privileges from the moment of birth, and legal scholars generally agree that a fetus is not a ‘person’ within the meaning of the United States Constitution until it is born and living independent of its mother’s body.”

The same section of the book goes on to argue that abortion spares “unwanted children” from “undesirable consequences.”

“From the standpoint of the terminated fetus, it makes no difference whether the mother had an induced abortion or a spontaneous abortion,” write the Ehrlichs and Holdren. “On the other hand, it subsequently makes a great deal of difference to the child if an abortion is denied, and the mother, contrary to her wishes, is forced to devote her body and life to the production and care of the child. In Sweden, studies were made to determine what eventually happened to children born to mothers whose requests for abortions had been turned down. When compared to a matched group of children from similar backgrounds who had been wanted, more than twice as many as these unwanted youngsters grew up in undesirable circumstances (illegitimate, in broken homes, or in institutions), more than twice as many had records of delinquency, or were deemed unfit for military service, almost twice as many had needed psychiatric care, and nearly five times as many had been on public assistance during their teens.

“There seems little doubt that the forced bearing of unwanted children has undesirable consequences not only for the children themselves and their families but for society as well, apart from the problems of overpopulation,” wrote the authors.

The Ehrlichs and Holdren then chide opponents of abortion for condemning future generations to an “overcrowded planet.”

“Those who oppose abortion often raise the argument that a decision is being made for an unborn person who ‘has no say,’” write the authors. “But unthinking actions of the very same people help to commit future unheard generations to misery and early death on an overcrowded planet.”

Holdren has impeccable academic credentials. He earned his bachelor’s degree at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and his doctorate at Harvard. He worked as a physicist at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory before becoming a senior research fellow at California Institute of Technology. He then became a professor at the University of California at Berkeley before joining the faculty at Harvard in 1996, where he was the Teresa and John Heinz Professor of Environmental Policy and director of the Program in Science, Technology and Public Policy at the John F. Kennedy School of Government.

In addition to his duties at Harvard, Holdren was director of the Woods Hole Research Center in Falmouth, Mass.

His curriculum vitae posted at the Woods Hole Web site lists “Human Ecology” as one of the books he has co-authored or co-edited.

“Dr. Holdren,” says the Web posting, “is the author of some 300 articles and papers, and he has co-authored and co-edited some 20 books and book-length reports, such as Energy (1971), Human Ecology (1973), Ecoscience (1977), Energy in Transition (1980), Earth and the Human Future (1986), Strategic Defences and the Future of the Arms Race (1987), Building Global Security Through Cooperation (1990), Conversion of Military R&D (1998), and Ending the Energy Stalemate (2004).”

The next to last subsection of the chapter on “Population Limitation” in “Human Ecology” is entitled, “Involuntary Fertility Control,” which the authors stress is an “unpalatable idea.”

“The third approach to population control is that of involuntary fertility control,” write the Ehrlichs and Holdren. “Several coercive proposals deserve discussion mainly because societies may ultimately have to resort to them unless current trends in birth rates are rapidly reversed by other means.”

“Compulsory control of family size is an unpalatable idea, but the alternatives may be much more horrifying” the authors state at the end of the subsection. “As those alternatives become clearer to an increasing number of people in the 1970s, we may well find them demanding such control. A far better choice, in our view, is to begin now with milder methods of influencing family size preferences, while ensuring that the means of birth control, including abortion and sterilization, are accessible to every human being on Earth within the shortest possible time. If effective action is taken promptly, perhaps the need for involuntary or repressive measures can be averted.”

In February, when Holdren appeared before the Senate Commerce, Science and Transportation Committee for a confirmation hearing, he was not asked about his comment in “Human Ecology” that a baby “will ultimately develop into a human being.”

Sen. David Vitter (R.-La.) did ask him, however, about the population-control ideas he expressed in 1973.

“In 1973, you encouraged a, quote, ‘decline in fertility to well below replacement,’ close quote, in the United States, because, quote, ‘280 million in 2040 is likely to be too many,’ close quote,” said Vitter. “What would your number for the right population in the U.S. be today?”

“I no longer think it’s productive, senator, to focus on the optimum population for the United States,” Holdren responded. “I don’t think any of us know what the right answer is. When I wrote those lines in 1973, I was preoccupied with the fact that many problems in the United States appeared to be being made more difficult by the rate of population growth that then prevailed.

“I think everyone who studies these matters understands that population growth brings some benefits and some liabilities,” Holdren continued. “It’s a tough question to determine which will prevail in a given time period. But I think the key thing today is that we need to work to improve the conditions that all of our citizens face economically, environmentally and in other respects. And we need to aim for something that I have been calling ‘sustainable prosperity.’”

In a subsequent question, Vitter asked, “Do you think determining optimal population is a proper role of government?”

“No, senator, I do not,” said Holdren.

The White House Press Office did not respond to emailed and telephoned inquiries from CNSNews.com about Holdren’s statement in “Human Ecology” that a baby will “ultimately develop into a human being.”


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To: cpforlife.org; Markos33

Ping.

(Bring your barf bag)

Markos ..... like I was sayin’.....


81 posted on 07/28/2009 1:42:54 PM PDT by shibumi (" ..... then we will fight in the shade.")
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To: presidio9
Question should be, When are liberals going to develop into human beings?
82 posted on 07/28/2009 1:47:36 PM PDT by nomad
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To: presidio9

Well said!


83 posted on 07/28/2009 1:50:13 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: presidio9

“will ultimately develop into a human being”
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Gee! Up until the time he can pay taxes, I suppose he’s a “Useless Eater”! ( barf!)


84 posted on 07/28/2009 1:50:34 PM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: presidio9
I am asking these people a stupid question. They will think it is stupid. I think it is totally relevant.

Please tell me if a fetus, or a newborn is not "human," what are they? Flowers? And, then why are so many fighting to take embryonic stem cells from them to plant in "humans?"

Please...Someone ask Michael Fox if he believes they are human or not. He wants the stem cell research, as Obama passed that allows this to be researched and done now. Are the stem cells from vegetables? If they are not human, according to Obama's Czar....

Get my point?

85 posted on 07/28/2009 1:51:04 PM PDT by CitizenM ("An excuse is worse than an lie, because an excuse is a lie hidden." Pope John Paul, II)
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To: presidio9

Ah, yes! But will the czar ever develop.


86 posted on 07/28/2009 1:55:32 PM PDT by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good.)
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To: Irish Eyes
If the RNC and other would just USE all this information. It is being handed to use on a silver platter.

That would assume the RNC and DNC differ from one another fundamentally.

87 posted on 07/28/2009 1:59:14 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: Howie66

“Obama’s Science Czar Said a Born Baby ‘Will Ultimately Develop Into a Human Being’”

I don’t care how many “credentials” this guy has-he’s still an idiot.


88 posted on 07/28/2009 2:01:10 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: presidio9; wagglebee
Silly me. I thought that DNA and being born to human parents helped determine if the baby was human or not. So, just what are they going to decide to call a new born baby now? At what age can they kill will they determine when the child becomes human? What criteria will they use? What if they decide that the lump of flesh is never human? Then eliminating it is not murder. OK, God. It's time. Now would be good.
89 posted on 07/28/2009 2:01:44 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: presidio9; wagglebee
Silly me. I thought that DNA and being born to human parents helped determine if the baby was human or not.

So, just what are they going to decide to call a new born baby now?

At what age can they kill will they determine when the child becomes human? What criteria will they use?

What if they decide that the lump of flesh is never human?

Then eliminating it is not murder.

OK, God. It's time. Now would be good.

Sorry about the paragraphs, or lack thereof.

90 posted on 07/28/2009 2:02:57 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: RebelTXRose; wagglebee; bamahead; Eric Blair 2084
He’s actually saying that a baby is NOT a human until it’s been fed and grows up! By that theory, there are MANY large non-humans around - that haven’t grown up!

Not exactly. He said that it is not human until it is "properly" fed and socialized.

Now for the rub....

Define: "properly".

Welcome to our Brave New World.

91 posted on 07/28/2009 2:07:00 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

If we could abort kids up till the age of 18, no one would live past being a teenager.....


92 posted on 07/28/2009 2:08:43 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: presidio9

Hye, sadly, I just predicted this a few days ago in another post. We were talking about the plans to essentially euthenize the elderly to save money on medicine... and I speculated that the next group the left would likely try to kill off was the very young, especially those with developmental disabilities. Whenever the left gets control of policy, people die in large numbers; since we’re Americans and a lot of us have firearms, the left in America started with people who have no literal voice - the unborn. A lot more subtle than the camps or the gulags! Now the elderly will be asked to see a counselor, and if the counselor is like some I’ve met, he or she just might be a far left zealot who believes in things like assisted suicide.

The “thinker” mentioned in this article is way ahead this trajectory. Maybe in another generation or two.

And to think Hannah Arendt was astonished about the mechanical smoothness of the “banal” Nazi genocide machine. At this rate, we’ll be exterminating people almost at their own request - or the request of the pregnant mom, worried children with elders, or distraught parents of a Down’s Syndrome child. It’ll be clean, sanitary, with the illusion of due process, and mostly unseen to the public.

At times like this I pray for my son.


93 posted on 07/28/2009 2:09:20 PM PDT by redpoll
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To: presidio9
There are only two non-arbitrary places where one can draw the personhood line: (1) fertilization and (2) months, if not up to two years, after birth. It's inevitable that people who focus on only the current attributes of the child will drift toward the latter and support euthanasia against the mentally handicapped and mentally damaged, as well.
94 posted on 07/28/2009 2:10:02 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: Julia H.; newguy357; Palladin
"What we have here is a poorly thought-out sentence, not an atrocity."


And what we have here is a poorly thought out analysis of said sentence.

This is not a randon quote from a press conference, nor is it an ambush in which Holdren "misspoke." - And by the way "newguy" - a little learning is a dangerous thing. You should have been paying more attention when Sr Mary of the Steel Ruler was teaching sentence diagrams. The whole first part of the sentence is a parenthetical phrase.

The point is, that this is a quote from a book. It presumably has been proofread, edited and proofread again. Further, it must be taken in context with the whole book, which, co-authored with Paul Erlich (a Komrad in Arms with Noam Chomsky and Pete Singer) clearly sends a message that fits neatly into the eugenicist mold championed by Margret Sanger and her ilk.

The whole body of work from this group is an atrocity.
95 posted on 07/28/2009 2:10:06 PM PDT by shibumi (" ..... then we will fight in the shade.")
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To: Regulator
I got the statement correct, you must have misunderstood my response...my point was that I agree with what you were taught "back then" in biology...a Zygote is most definitely a human. They can redefine it or call it anything they want, nothing will ever change the fact that a Zygote is a human being that will become a baby as far as I am concerned. Hence, my harsh words to my DIL when she spouted off about choice.

And BTW, it is Ms. Nutter ; )

96 posted on 07/28/2009 2:10:29 PM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: mc6809e; wagglebee; trisham; BykrBayb; darkwing104
Yeah, so what? I don't think the scientist is that far off.

What are you doing on FR?

The *scientist*? If this is where *science* and *scientists* are leading, it's no wonder they're having such PR problems.

I guess this is the end result when you remove God from the equation.

Go back to DU and let the door hit you.

97 posted on 07/28/2009 2:10:56 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: NYer; Salvation; WKB; greyfoxx39

ping


98 posted on 07/28/2009 2:12:29 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: newguy357

Do you not consider a fetus to be a human being?


99 posted on 07/28/2009 2:16:47 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

I sometimes think it would get a little boring around here without trolls.


100 posted on 07/28/2009 2:20:22 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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