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To: reaganaut1

I read this and that the birth was listed in two newspapers
seems to end the argument. I agree anything other then
exposing this WH’s agenda and trying to defeat it is a
waste of time.


6 posted on 07/28/2009 5:33:55 AM PDT by Dr. Ursus
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To: Dr. Ursus
It doesn't but you can believe what you like.

I actually don't care where he was born as he is not a "natural born citizen" since his father was Kenyan.

14 posted on 07/28/2009 5:37:00 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: Dr. Ursus

You need to read a little more.


17 posted on 07/28/2009 5:38:23 AM PDT by DB
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To: Dr. Ursus

Well the birth announcement lists an address his family never resided at.

The Lefforge family resided at 6085 Kalanianaole Highway, never anyone associated with Obama. The Lefforges are now passed.

“Orland Scott Lefforge was a Professor at UH at Manoa, Dept. of Speech, before becoming an assistant to Sen. Inouye in 1967. After that he wrote a paper about “In service Training as an Instrument of Change” (1971). He was also an administrator in the UH Community College office, and a member of the Osher Institute. He died July 4, 2007 at the age of 91. His wife/companion Thelma Jones Lefforge Young died June 12, 2008.”

“In 1961 the Dunhams lived on Kamehameha Avenue, while Obama Sr. lived on 11th Avenue. The Lefforge family, including their 3 children under the age of seven were residing at the luxury home listed on Obama’s newly found birth announcement — 6085 Kalanianaole Highway.”

Why is everything associated with oilybama so pretzeled?


19 posted on 07/28/2009 5:39:33 AM PDT by cycle of discernment
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To: Dr. Ursus
I agree with you. I have watched this thing with interest since the campaign and even though there is definitely some sticking points in regards to the released COLB as well as the issue of Zero's lawyers spending millions to fight the legal cases...I keep coming back to the birth announcements in the newspaper. If he wasn't born in Hawaii, why would there be a birth announcement?

I have yet to see a plausible explanation for this fact.

27 posted on 07/28/2009 5:42:18 AM PDT by NMEwithin
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To: Dr. Ursus

Minor problem there though.

Apparently, neither Dunham nor Obama ever resided in the place of residence that’s presented on that birth announcement in the papers.

A leftist professor named Orland Scott Lefforge and his wife did. He died in 2007 and she died 10 days before this newspaper announcement was “discovered.”

http://bit.ly/1rYNki

If true…doesn’t this make even the most ardent anti-birther question that perhaps something is going on here?

I’m not saying to draw a conclusion as to what that something is…just acknowledge that people are trying to hide something.


43 posted on 07/28/2009 5:47:34 AM PDT by PowerPro (2009 - Conservative Revolution Reborn (Go Palin!))
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To: Dr. Ursus

“I read this and that the birth was listed in two newspapers
seems to end the argument.”

The New York Times recently made 7 factual errors in the Walter Cronkite obituary. What makes you willing to trust any newspaper without verification?


127 posted on 07/28/2009 6:18:52 AM PDT by wilco200 (11/4/08 - The Day America Jumped the Shark)
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To: Dr. Ursus

You’re very late, but welcome to the party anyway.

Others have pointed out that the newspaper announcement does NOT say where he was born and that the address is wrong. It doesn’t end there. There were twins, the Nordyke girls shown in the kindergarten picture, born that day but who’s announcement is missing. Look at the newspaper, notice that the list of announcements are one continuous list except where the advertisements are cut and pasted between some names. There is a line at each ad showing where they were inserted. No other birth has a cut and paste line except Hussein’s and the kid below. Why mess with the other kid’s? Because it would be too obvious if the column was too short and to have lines only on Hussein’s so the other kid was added to make up the room for the extra space when the twins’ might have/could be/looks suspicious was taken out. Now, there’s claims there are no originals of the newspaper just as there’s no originals of the long form bc and the only record missing from the kindergarten class which would have back up info is his. But sure, whatever, let’s just take his word for it and move on.


128 posted on 07/28/2009 6:19:21 AM PDT by bgill (The evidence simply does not support the official position of the Obama administration)
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To: Dr. Ursus

I read this and that the birth was listed in two newspapers
seems to end the argument.
++++++++++++++++

What? Hawaii allowed a COLB to be issued under broad circumstances.
http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/vol06_ch0321-0344/HRS0338/HRS_0338-0017_0008.HTM

The newspaper announcements:
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=83851
“Baro’s investigators were unable to locate any current or past resident of Kalanianaole Highway who could recall Obama or his family living at the address listed in the Sunday Advertiser announcement.

Baro also sent investigators to the newspaper offices to examine files, but the Advertiser could not confirm who actually placed the ad.”

Easily, the grandparents could have issued the birth announcements (they happened 9 days after the reported birth date). Once the COLB was achieved, the birth announcements could easily have followed.

Why? The benefits of US citizenship. This is not rocket science, and it wouldn’t have taken some silly foresight into the knowledge that ‘someday little Barack will run for POTUS.’

Nope, they just wanted him to the have the advantages of US citizenship - like millions of other people would love to have...


218 posted on 07/28/2009 7:19:19 AM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country & the Tea Party! Take America Back! (Objective media? Try BIGOTS.))
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