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To: panthermom
His Dad was not even a resident alien nor a naturalized citizen. He was here on a student visa. That makes things very murky as far as Natural Born is concerned.
"Natural Born Citizen" means citizen by birth in the US, not citizen granted afterwards. It has NOTHING to do with his parents. It even currently includes children born here to TWO people here ILLEGALLY. This is not tricky. Isn't it enough that his political ally was America's domestic Osama bin Laden, Bill Ayers (also a natural born citizen).
186 posted on 07/28/2009 6:50:44 AM PDT by Crush T Velour
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To: Crush T Velour; panthermom
"Natural Born Citizen" means citizen by birth in the US, not citizen granted afterwards. It has NOTHING to do with his parents

It has EVERYTHING to do with his parents. A natural born citizen has 2 parents of the same nationality as per William Blackstone, Commentaries of 1765. It doesn't matter what current law says unless you intend to dump the Constitution.

And the child of 2 illegals is a citizen but NOT a natural born citizen.

Check out the case of Chester Arthur.

252 posted on 07/28/2009 7:59:02 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: Crush T Velour
"Natural Born Citizen" means citizen by birth in the US, not citizen granted afterwards. It has NOTHING to do with his parents. It even currently includes children born here to TWO people here ILLEGALLY.

Nothing that I've read on this subject in the last 8 months (which is quite a lot) supports your contention. In fact, there are volumes of well-sourced documentary evidence on this website that utterly refutes what you just stated.

351 posted on 07/28/2009 12:22:15 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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