State declares Obama birth certificate real, again

Wash Post ^ | 7/27/09 | staff

[pissant]

HONOLULU -- State officials again are confirming that President Barack Obama was born in Hawaii.

Health Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino said Monday she has seen the original birth records that verify Obama was born in Hawaii, and is a "natural-born American citizen."

Fukino made the announcement in hopes of ending any lingering rumors about Obama's citizenship. She issued a similar press release Oct. 31.

[RummyChick]

Did you not see what the poster and I were discussing? We were talking about his US citizenship with some people claiming it centers on Ann’s age etc if Obama was born in Kenya.

It centers on whether he was born out of wedlock and that case talks about the pertinent law.

[DJ MacWoW]

I’ve been reading these threads since before the election.

[the invisib1e hand]

OK, now I'm beginning -- thank you -- to understand some of the premises. Clearly the finest of hair-splitting BUT the criteria was written into the very founding documents for a reason; if it has been so brazenly disregarded, that's a problem, and not one of "birth" but of love of country. If you love your country, you love your constitution, and if you love your constitution, you don't ignore it when it seems to dampen your ambitions. Yes, if that's the case, every American should be offended at that and the great uniter could show his American blood but more importantly his American spirit by submitting himself to the supreme law of the land.

Furthermore, it seems to be compatiable with the "president of the world" mentality that he would hold the provisions of the constitution that apply to the office of presidency in such low regard as to be willing to ignore one or some of them.

I can see why this turns your stomach. It turns mine. I think he owes it to the dignity of the country to demonstrate his honor for the rule of law (if only he had any).

Thank you again for pointing it out.

[jetson]

So we have one person ( Dr. Fukino) stating that the birth certificate is legit vs many researchers who have found major flaws in BO’s paperwork. So how is it the one director of health has such all reaching power over a document.

[pissant]

She doesn’t. We aren’t asking for her opinion. We are demanding to see the birth certificate.

[little jeremiah]

If this is true, then all his college/travel visa/passport records need to be unveiled. He didn’t have any authentic forgery then.

[little jeremiah]

Greetings, DJ MacWoW - Just sort of easing back into FR after a while away - this thing is sure is getting more air play, and what a large number of 0 supporters have shown up all of a sudden!

[DJ MacWoW]

Hey! Glad you're back. Hope everything is ok!

We have Obeyme bots coming out of our ears.

[little jeremiah]

Obeyme - that’s rich!

I’m fine - I just couldn’t handle the horror of reading about the Steaming Pile (that’s his title in our household) after a while. I’ve been busy, too...

Now my energy is recharged and I am convinced that divine order will not allow the Steaming Pile and all that he represents to play lord too much longer.

[DJ MacWoW]

I have a problem reading about him and avoid FR sometimes too. It's difficult to watch commies take over.

My 5 yr old granddaughter is visiting so my presence right now is spotty.

Lots of info in yesterday's threads. You're going to be busy reading for awhile. You're going to love this one.

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[Girlene]

Or he could have made it [his exact weight] up. It's large but not unreasonable weight. Although pretty big for someone as small as Stanley Ann, and BHO Sr was not especially large or hefty either.

That seems like a healthy weight to me, even for small parents. My point was this. If the birth announcements in the HI papers at the time are real, then it sigaals the Certificate of Live Birth filed with Vital Statistics might have been fraudulent. The address listed belonged to another couple whe were not haveing a baby at the time.

So.....if the BC was faked, it would likely not have shown Obama being born in a hospital, a clinic, or by a midwife. It would be much harder to fake signatures of any official attendant and their addresses. Also, I think hospitals automatically send the BC information to the Health Dept. So a person walking in or mailing in official records from a hospital would be odd.

It would be far easier to fake a BC with a home birth. Hawaii allowed an individual or parent to vouch for a live birth at home/ a taxi/ wherever.

Now, IF Obama's memory of 8 pounds 2 oucnes is accurate from his book, that would indicate a hospital or some legitimate attendant that delivered him in a more formal setting. This type of information is not on your official long term BC. It is found on hospital records that are sent home with mom with the baby's footprints, weight, length, Dr and/or nurse's signatures at the time of birth. A home birth would not have a record of weight (at least not typically).

Now, IF Obama's memory of his exact weight is true, it would indicate he found his hospital/formal attendant's records when looking through his mom's or grandmom's "important papers" file It made an impression on him enough to include it in his first book. Typically you wouldn't remember details like this unless you had seen it with your own eyes or were told what a big deal it was.

We will probably never know, but my bet is the BC says it was a home birth (no formal setting). Why would you give a fake address to a hospital? There is no reason. If Obama's memory is accurate, he's basically saying he was born in a formal setting.

If Obama was born elsewhere and you wanted him to have US citizenship, grandma or mom could have filed a fraudulent Certificate of Live Birth to accomplish that goal. Providing a fake address might insulate O's grandma from being caught in a fraud saying he was born in her apartment.

Total speculation, but when people make things up, they leave clues. When clues about the same event don't add up, that is an indication of falsehood somewhere.

[STARWISE]

Not being a Constitutional attorney, I wonder
how it is that a state administrative official
takes it upon herself to pronounce that Obama
conforms to the Constitutional term, “natural
born citizen,” when as far as I’ve read and
seen, no official court in the land in our
entire history has EVER even take a case wherein
that issue was at question and a ruling required.

Someone please correct me if my understanding is
inaccurate.

[STARWISE]

~~PING

[hoosiermama]

IMO to make that determination is “above her pay grade”

[DJ MacWoW]

*jamming my tongue in my cheek* Fukimo is above the rules and intelligence of normal people. She knows and has shared what a "natural born citizen" is and has read the Chosen's birth lines and shared them with us also, despite that it's illegal for others to do so.

Or maybe a desperate Obeyme said "Get out there and SAY something!"

Or maybe a reporter, desperate for attention, has written what he thought was said.

[April Lexington]

We need to send in Sandy Burglar to check the original documents!

[battletank]

“The Constitution, a document which I will uphold, clearly states that as long as you are born here and are a US citizen, you may rule as president.”

Wow. I haven’t read any further posts, but I just bet I’m going to be “piling on” when I say that you have not one clue what you are talking about.

[romanesq]

Yes but all the what ifs and maybes just make it look outlandish.
Without the info, it’s speculation piled high.

Short of a release, no one knows what the issue is on the document.
There clearly is one and my bet is it’s related to the father.

[Redwood Bob]

“Why is the address listed on the birth announcement the home of the Lefforge family?”

The Obamas nor the Dunhams ever lived there.Yet it was published in the newspaper: “Mr. and Mrs. Barack H. Obama, 6085 Kalanianaole Hwy., son, Aug. 4.”

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There’s a rental cottage in back of the main house.

[Redwood Bob]

“The fact that neighbors dont remember them being there 47 years ago doesnt mean the Obama couple werent there renting it out for a time. even if for some reason the address was wrong”

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The story that “the neighbors say they never lived there” comes strictly from World Net Daily. An investigator, Jorge Baro, supposedly sent unnamed investigators to the neighborhood and Baro swears, in an unnotarized affidavit, that the investigators told him that the neighbors told them that they didn’t remember any Obamas.

Baro’s affidavit is worthless, overlooking the fact it’s not notarized. It’s third-person hearsay, even if true. But consider: If Baro really had the smoking gun, why didn’t his Ace Investigators get the neighbors to sign an affidavit? Why didn’t they video or voice record this startling revelation? We have nothing but Baro’s unsworn word and third-party hearsay. My B.S. alarm is going off.