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To: Ronin

You said — Obama could do it in five minutes if he wanted to. All he has to do is release his long form birth certificate, and it all goes away instantly.

I have said elsewhere that I’m detecting a “change in strategy” and that the leftists are actually co-opting this issue for themselves and finding it useful to derail conservatives. I’ve noticed this just recently.

This is what I said in another post...


Yes, it does appear to be a change in strategy and I noted that it was a “change” elsewhere. It seems to be a “developing strategy” actually. You know how some things work... you gradually come upon them or you stumble upon them. I think it may be that way with this, more recently.

I wrote the following elsewhere..., in a thread in which an article was trying to “tag” someone with this label of being a birther, while they were actually trying to distance themselves from it. It was like the article was “using” the birther designation to sidetrack the real issues that were being spoken about, by this conservative.

So, the comment I said elsewhere...

The leftists don’t want the issue to go away. It’s too useful to them. I posted the following in another thread about what someone said is “panic” setting in. What I see, instead, is a “strategy” developing by the leftists...

Well, here’s how it would work..., if you’re a conservative and you have ever said anything about the birth certificate issue, those leftists are going to know about it. And then, let’s say you’re giving some reasoned points on some legislation being pushed by Obama...

If it starts sounding too good or they can’t counter it — then it’s time to shift over to the “Obama birth certificate issue” — and the leftists will be the ones who raise it.

Then they try to paint that person *as* one of those who believes that Obama is not qualified to be President, because he has not shown a proper birth certificate.

At that point, they’ve just gotten you off your points in regards to Obama’s legislation that you’re trying to get out to the public and over into whether you think that Obama is qualified to be President or not.

The public sees and hears this, they forget all about the points you were making on the legislation that Obama is pushing and now the public thinks the whole issue was about whether Obama is qualified to be President or not.

The leftists love to get the conservatives over into that topic, because it means that this particular conservative can’t talk about the legislation that he originally wanted to talk about.

That’s how it works...

And that’s why the leftists are loving the Obama Birth Certificate Issue as a good issue for them to beat on and divert any conversation away from something else.

I think the birther issue is going to be useful to them...


As I said, this appears to be a “developing” strategy right now... (i.e, just recently)


11 posted on 07/24/2009 8:24:08 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Star Traveler
You are right, but it's more than thst. Even the very word "birther," which we should not use or accept. It's an attempt to put us in the loony bin when we are really just looking for the answer.

No one who loves his country should want this search ended. Maybe we will be proven wrong, although we're not (all) sayng he wasn' eligible, we just want proof. I am willing to take the risk of being proven wrong.

55 posted on 07/24/2009 10:05:29 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: Star Traveler

Sounds like cutting off your nose to spite your face to me.


57 posted on 07/24/2009 10:09:58 PM PDT by Ronin (It will be helpful if Geithner can show us some arithmetic.)
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To: Star Traveler
Here's their problem. The insults and foot stomping are in the blogosphere, because they are terrified of this getting traction. Dobbs was told to exnay. The mainstream srm won;t be reporting on this. No exposure...no repetition..no saturation...and it stays alive.

AOL commie news is running a poll cited elsewhere showing around eighty percent of respondents presently want Obama to show his birth certificate. Most objective people would answer that way.

And as for their term “birthers,” used as a putdown like “Birchers” used to be, that won't have the punch the latter term had in a time of media fragmentation and the unwillingness they have to show to protect the messiah. They aren't sure of the truth either, and their reaction is purely partisan.

Most Republicans are playing both sides of the street on this, which is very smart. That's why the Dems and their water carriers want them to renounce and denounce. Ultimately, it hurts O, because it's one little hanging issue that will continue to linger.

89 posted on 07/25/2009 7:44:36 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: Star Traveler

Leftists have always been about diversion. They have gotten good at it since Saul Alinsky. They can use the color of the sky or green trees it doesn’t matter.


90 posted on 07/25/2009 9:24:11 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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