Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

To: restornu
Just where did you ever get that idea big'ol_freeper?

Official LDS church statement on abortion:

"The Church opposes abortion and counsels its members not to submit to or perform an abortion except in the rare cases where, in the opinion of competent medical counsel, the life or good health of the mother is seriously endangered or where the pregnancy was caused by rape and produces serious emotional trauma in the mother. Even then it should be done only after counseling with the local presiding priesthood authority and after receiving divine confirmation through prayer."

That is about as liberal as you can get and still say you are pro life. Basically it says you can't murder a pre-born human being unless the mothers life is at stake or the woman's "good health" (does not state whether physical or emotional health") is at risk (easy enough to find a physician to say either of those), or if the woman was raped and is upset...then its ok to murder the little blob of flesh...BUT even though the church says under those circumstances it is ok to murder, you still need to talk to the "local presiding priesthood authority" which I assumed (may wrongly) was the bishop.

Abortion is an illicit act. No reason, rationalization or set of circumstances can make licit that which is illicit by its very nature.

61 posted on 07/26/2009 9:02:53 AM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Anyone pushing Romney must love socialism...Piss on Romney and his enablers!!" ~ Jim Robinson)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 58 | View Replies ]


To: big'ol_freeper; Elsie; ejonesie22; colorcountry; Tennessee Nana; Colofornian; Zakeet; ...
"The Church opposes abortion and counsels its members not to submit to or perform an abortion except in the rare cases where, in the opinion of competent medical counsel, the life or good health of the mother is seriously endangered or where the pregnancy was caused by rape and produces serious emotional trauma in the mother. Even then it should be done only after counseling with the local presiding priesthood authority and after receiving divine confirmation through prayer."

How DARE you post this official position from the mormon church?

Now, prepare yourself for a reply consisting of a long list of "scriptures" that have nothing to do with the subject at hand, but which will probably chastize you for being a "natural man", (read non-mormon) and therefore morally wanting.

62 posted on 07/26/2009 9:11:29 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (There is no justice at the Dept. of Justice when Black Panthers are cleared for terrorizing voters.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 61 | View Replies ]

To: big'ol_freeper; dirtboy; Jim Robinson; restornu; Elsie; greyfoxx39; All

Wow. I feel like I just stepped into a big pile of dinosaur dung.

We all have a common enemy that we should be focusing on, and that would be the Muslims who want to conquer the world by killing all people who are not Muslim.

We have enough trouble coming from the Whitehouse without beating up on each other because of religious differences.

Mr. Robinson, I don’t know what your religious affiliations are, and I really don’t care. But never, in my life, have I heard such foul words about a religion (”Mormonism”) from a person in public life, who has the opportunity to be an excellent role model.

Although I respect what you are doing here on this site, Sir, I’ve lost my respect for you as a person.


63 posted on 07/26/2009 9:17:17 AM PDT by Monkey Face (RUN, SARAH, RUN!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 61 | View Replies ]

To: big'ol_freeper

You italicized only part of the sentence. The Church does not condone abortion in a pregnancy resulting from consensual sexual relations, unless it is one or those “rare” cases where the mother will die or suffer serious, permanent damage. That almost never happens. The “emotional trauma” part of the sentence has to do with rape. If a woman becomes pregnant as a result of rape, then, and only then, do you consider the “serious emotional trauma.” In other words, even in the case of rape, the mother should think long and hard before having an abortion, counsel with her church leaders, and pray.

97 to 98 percent of abortions are performed on healthy mothers, with healthy babies. The Church would never condone abortion in those instances. Only 2 to 3 percent of abortions involve real threats to the life of the mother, or rape or incest.

I think that is a pretty conservative position, and I cut my legal teeth defending our state’s abortion statute against a challenge by the ACLU. But if you are an absolutist on abortion, then you don’t allow it even when rape is involved.


64 posted on 07/26/2009 9:27:03 AM PDT by lady lawyer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 61 | View Replies ]

To: big'ol_freeper; greyfoxx39

Official LDS church statement on abortion:

“The Church opposes abortion and counsels its members not to submit to or perform an abortion except in the rare cases where, in the opinion of competent medical counsel, the life or good health of the mother is seriously endangered or where the pregnancy was caused by rape and produces serious emotional trauma in the mother. Even then it should be done only after counseling with the local presiding priesthood authority and after receiving divine confirmation through prayer.”
__________________________________________________

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Roe V Wade.....


77 posted on 07/26/2009 10:02:50 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 61 | View Replies ]

To: big'ol_freeper

Your faith claims free will it is one of the few that do so.

Either the Lord gave man free will or he did not!

In a few cases like rape, incest and life is the exception.

It says more about the person who would select abortion than it does about the Church.

A religion should be consistent with the Lord’s doctrine.

The Church is very much against abortion and some women take advantage but the Lord knows all our hearts and minds and will have to answer for her decision if they were legit or not.

Those who are true to the faith will choose life or adoption.

Rape or incest they should choose adoption if they cannot due to trama keep the baby, the life or death is up to the mother.

If the women lies about her condition she has to answer to the Lord.

side note
The Romney family never aborted even in a life or death situation.


107 posted on 07/26/2009 1:53:59 PM PDT by restornu (We are now entering the time of the Wheat and the Tares! kavala2@msn.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 61 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson