Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Democrats Block GOP Health Care Mailing (Marxism is alive in well in the Democrat Party)
rollcall ^ | 7/23/09 | Jackie Kucinich

Posted on 07/23/2009 6:57:14 AM PDT by bestintxas

Democrats are preventing Republican House Members from sending their constituents a mailing that is critical of the majority’s health care reform plan, blocking the mailing by alleging that it is inaccurate. House Republicans are crying foul and claiming that the Democrats are using their majority to prevent GOP Members from communicating with their constituents.

The dispute centers on a chart created by Rep. Kevin Brady (R-Texas) and Republican staff of the Joint Economic Committee to illustrate the organization of the Democratic health care plan.

At first glance, Brady’s chart resembles a board game: a colorful collection of shapes and images with a web of lines connecting them.

But a closer look at the image reveals a complicated menagerie of government offices and programs that Republicans say will be created if the leading Democratic health care plan becomes law.

In a memo sent Monday to Republicans on the House franking commission, Democrats argue that sending the chart to constituents as official mail would violate House rules because the information is misleading.

In their eight-point memo, which was obtained by Roll Call, Democrats identify a litany of areas where they believe the chart is incorrect.

For example, Democrats argue that the chart depicts a “Health Insurance Exchange Trust Fund” that is “simply a recipient of IRS funds, with no outflow. ... This is false.”

The chart’s illustration of low-income subsidies is also “misleading and false,” Democrats argue.

Congressional rules for franked mail bar Members from using taxpayer-funded mail for newsletters that use “partisan, politicized or personalized” comments to criticize legislation or policy.

(Excerpt) Read more at rollcall.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; achillwind; bhohealthcare; censorship; freespeech; gop; healthcare; lping; obama; obamacare; pelosi; tyranny
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 41-6061-8081-100101-108 next last
To: Jeff Head

“The memo and the chart should be sent to every conservative talk show host, every conservative forum, and every conservative PAC around the country...it will then get out to the constituents.”

Been there done that - in fact the Media Matters folks whined about it showing up on FoxNews and elsewhere. It’s gotten a lot of traction. I got from a friend via email.

You get flak when you are over the target!


81 posted on 07/23/2009 10:47:52 AM PDT by WOSG (Why is Obama trying to bankrupt America with $16 trillion in spending over the next 4 years?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: bestintxas
Congressional rules for franked mail bar Members from using taxpayer-funded mail for newsletters that use “partisan, politicized or personalized” comments to criticize legislation or policy.

I see. Perhaps the Republicans should remember that fact and enforce it with extreme prejudice if they are ever fortunate enough to be given another chance to run things. (They won't remember--because they are panty waists.)

82 posted on 07/23/2009 10:57:48 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: takenoprisoner
One would think they could have heard about Youtube by now.


that would be great, but I have many family members and email buddies that are still restricted to dialup in rural areas ... let's face it, everyone isn't in a city and if they are ina big city, they most like be demo's anyway

83 posted on 07/23/2009 11:26:57 AM PDT by SF_Redux
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 60 | View Replies]

To: ml/nj; firebrand; ExTexasRedhead; Lady GOP; 1035rep; Liz; Yaelle; Arizona Carolyn; Alamo-Girl; ...
Ping!!!

Wonder if that Orwellian-sounding ban on mailing out “partisan, personalized, or politicized” comments critical of legislation or policy was instituted after the ‘Rats took back control of the House in the 2006 elections. If it was in effect before then, you could be sure that the ‘Rats violated it many times when the GOP controlled the House.

84 posted on 07/23/2009 11:53:42 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: justiceseeker93

But Obama can run a perpetual campaign out of the white house? which, BTW I “thought” was illegal.


85 posted on 07/23/2009 11:56:59 AM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 84 | View Replies]

To: bestintxas

Democrats Block GOP Health Care Mailing (Marxism is alive in well in the Democrat Party)
rollcall ^ | 7/23/09 | Jackie Kucinich

the writer is Dennis Kucinich’ daughter!

http://bigheaddc.com/category/jackie-kucinich/


86 posted on 07/23/2009 12:09:51 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68 (CALL CONGRESSCRITTERS TOLL-FREE @ 1-800-965-4701)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: bestintxas

Democrats are getting lots of letters. Here is one that I saw posted:

I’ve got great news. Recently, the Senate HELP Committee passed the Affordable Health Choice Act which includes giving everyone in America the choice of a strong public option.

The pressure is working! We would be nowhere on this important legislation without your continued hard work and dedication putting the pressure on your elected officials through phone calls, petition deliveries, and local actions.

Now, I’ve teamed up with Democracy for America to thank Senator Kennedy and his colleagues on the HELP Committee for their commitment to real reform. Help me send a clear message to my colleagues that when Senate Democrats stand up and lead, Americans won’t forget. Will you join me today?

THANK SENATE DEMOCRATS ON THE H.E.L.P. COMMITTEE FOR THEIR HEALTHCARE LEADERSHIP:
http://www.democracyforamerica.com/activities/176

Twelve colleagues put this bill together under the leadership of Senator Kennedy with help from Senator Dodd. Here’s the whole list so we all know who they are:

Edward Kennedy (MA) - Christopher Dodd (CT)
Tom Harkin (IA) - Barbara A. Mikulski (MD)
Jeff Bingaman (NM) - Patty Murray (WA)
Jack Reed (RI) - Bernard Sanders (VT)
Sherrod Brown (OH) - Robert P. Casey, Jr. (PA)
Kay Hagan (NC) - Jeff Merkley (OR)

I’m not interested in passing a bill in name only, and neither are my Democratic colleagues on the HELP Committee. Every American deserves the right to quality healthcare and allowing Americans to choose a strong public healthcare option will help ensure that for all of us.

This fight for real reform is far from over. Please add your name to our thank you and remind Senate Democrats that when we stand with the American people, the American people will stand up for us.

JOIN ME — ADD YOUR NAME NOW

Insurance industry executives and special interests shouldn’t rule the debate, and they shouldn’t rule decisions about the kind of health care your family needs. The Affordable Health Choice Act is the first step towards giving families a choice, and making sure that all Americans are covered.

So keep the pressure up. We need to hear from you. All of us in Congress need to hear from all of you. There is too much at stake to sit at home hoping for change. It’s up to each of us to work together to make change happen.

Thank you, *****, for all of your hard work.

Sincerely,

-Russ

Russ Feingold
United States Senator


87 posted on 07/23/2009 12:09:53 PM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Arizona Carolyn; All
But Obama can run a perpetual campaign out of the White House?

The Clintons did too. Remember the White House data base of Dem fatcats, the Gore calls to contributors, the White House coffees and the Lincoln Bedroom sleep-ins, just to name a few practices that come to mind. The Republicans were more circumspect about doing their partisan political activities away from the White House during the Bush years.

But all of that is really a different issue than the one that's the crux of the posted article. It's not as if these GOP members opposing the health care bill are abusing their franking privileges to raise campaign cash. If they can't discuss legislation and policy in their free mailings, what are the franking privileges for? It would be preferable to abolish the privileges altogether for all members of the House if they can't be used for their intended purposes.

88 posted on 07/23/2009 12:17:02 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 85 | View Replies]

To: bestintxas

When they said “free speech”, they didn’t mean for people who disagree.

Now pay your taxes - we need a raise. :)


89 posted on 07/23/2009 12:22:33 PM PDT by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: justiceseeker93

Yes, the Gore thing particularly comes to my mind.


90 posted on 07/23/2009 12:24:24 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 88 | View Replies]

To: justiceseeker93; Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; akatel; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; ...



Libertarian ping! Click here to get added or here to be removed or post a message here!
(View past Libertarian pings here)
91 posted on 07/23/2009 12:29:49 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: bestintxas
...what have the Democrats been sending out? Let's have a full investigation. I'm sure we'll find plenty of stuff that it partisan and misleading...starting with any and all communication regarding the great political pay-off known as the ‘stimulus.’
92 posted on 07/23/2009 12:33:59 PM PDT by americanophile (Sarcasm: satirical wit depending for its effect on bitter, caustic, and often ironic language.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: justiceseeker93; AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; ...
Thanks justiceseeker93.
93 posted on 07/23/2009 1:03:29 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 84 | View Replies]

To: bestintxas
Shame on the Dems. This will backfire on them.

Meanwhile, I don't like that chart all that much. Okay as a first effort, but it is an oversimplification, for one thing. Where are the fines for non-participants? Where are the phase-outs of private insurers? Where are the abortions that Catholics and other pro-life taxpayers will be paying for? Where are the illegal aliens who will be covered but exempted from four-figure non-participation fines, unlike you and me?

Meanwhile there are some nodes in the chart which appear to have been added for impact but, when you think about it, risk being spotlighted as examples of our side's demagoguery. "Look here-- are the Republicans saying Medicare is bad? It's right there on the chart! What about all the poor seniors who depend on it for their healthcare? Republicans want old people to die!!"

Let's get this right, is all I'm saying. For one thing, we are missing an opportunity to say "The Ted Kennedy Federal Healthcare Bill-- from the guy who brought you the HMO." Nobody likes HMOs, but thanks to the media few people realize this is not his first at-bat for health-care, and how badly he has performed in his prior efforts.
94 posted on 07/23/2009 1:14:31 PM PDT by RightOnTheLeftCoast (I love my country, but I fear it, for it does not love me.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: bestintxas

The other day I send a webmail form to my Congressman, Tom Cole, and it wouldn’t take because it said I had the wrong zip code. I haven’t moved and they have not redrawn the lines of our district so I contacted the head of his local office who sent my note to Tom, but then I talked with several others who also had problems.

Figured then the DemocRATs were up to their tricks and now this. Pelosi is a dictator and any Dem that voted for her as Speaker needs to be challenged on that vote at the Town Hall meetings. It is up to all of us to bring this out when local media are present.

Forget the mainstream lunatics and go to local media which is what Bush-Cheney had to do in 2000.


95 posted on 07/23/2009 1:34:57 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Coburn/Rubio - Senate 2010 !)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: bestintxas

People living in rat-run congressional districts should start contacting their reps and request/demand an organizational chart of the House health care bill.

I just sent one to my rep after reading this article.


96 posted on 07/23/2009 1:57:56 PM PDT by bustinchops
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Clara Lou

The chart is already out “there”. The pub party could send them out, as many by email as possible.

And anybody with a copy machine is free to copy and distribute them.


97 posted on 07/23/2009 2:00:14 PM PDT by bustinchops
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: bestintxas

Maybe we can take action. I discussed this with Brady’s office —

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2299525/posts


98 posted on 07/23/2009 2:05:44 PM PDT by doug from upland (10 million views of .HILLARY! UNCENSORED - put some ice on it, witch)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Clara Lou

You got that right, put up or shut up. I invest my own money educating the American public in six figure amounts. They will have to get more creative but it is no surprise the communist don’t want competition on there advertising monopoly. They were just smart enough to invest in the 1990’s.


99 posted on 07/23/2009 2:09:38 PM PDT by iThinkBig
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: bestintxas
Democrats are preventing Republican House Members from sending their constituents a mailing that is critical of the majority’s health care reform plan, blocking the mailing by alleging that it is inaccurate.

How is this legal?

They're really running scared on this one. Dems are putting it all on the line for absolute power.

If they fail, they know the downside could be devastating.

100 posted on 07/23/2009 2:39:19 PM PDT by TheThinker
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 41-6061-8081-100101-108 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson