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1 posted on 07/23/2009 1:35:29 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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I give the Obama rope-a-dope theory less than 1% of a chance that it’s correct.


2 posted on 07/23/2009 1:52:23 AM PDT by Red Steel
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Thoughtful bump.

I don’t buy it completely, but I want to read the responses here.


3 posted on 07/23/2009 1:55:08 AM PDT by Ronin (It will be helpful if Geithner can show us some arithmetic.)
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I have posted before that I wanted to see Obama’s college records because that is where the real secrets are at. But I also want to see Obama’s BC released too.

Sadly, I don’t think any of documents will ever be released to the public. Not if Barry has any say in the matter.


4 posted on 07/23/2009 2:04:43 AM PDT by Ticonderoga34 (Free Obama's Birth Certificate!)
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This entire article is Rope-a-Dope. The Clinton scandals were all addressed and either blocked, stopped or succeeded, entirely outside of Monicagate, which was itself a successful impeachment that was then blocked for dismissal by the Senate.

And while all of Obama’s other missing documents are important, surely the most damning of all, requiring no logical deduction over it’s meaning, is his birth certificate. Great effort is being made to dismiss the BC as something irrelevent or non-binding, while lawyers are throwing their bodies across Hawaii to prevent anyone access to it.

That such a brazen fraud is given any credence whatever is utterly absurd - the BC damns him, and it’s obvious to a two year old that the only reason he’d hide it is because showing it would prove he is illegitimate.


6 posted on 07/23/2009 2:05:18 AM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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Interesting theory, but my take is a bit different. The GOP was inept in its investigations of Travelgate, Filegate, Chinagate, etc., and was ably stonewalled by Slick Willy's so-called Justice Dept. Perhaps there were too many GOP greenhorns from the 1994 takeover of Congress, and they were outmaneuvered by their more experienced Dem opponents.

Another sign of their ineptitude was the inexplicable rise to Speaker of the invisible Mr. Hastert.

Thus, in frustration, they pounced on Lewinskygate as a consolation prize, thinking that the public would understand sex far more than those other abstruse issues (the Lowest Common Denominator principle).

In the end, the impeachment was just enough of a distraction that heir-apparent Gore barely lost the Presidency. Given the much weaker response that Gore would have had to 9/11, and his likely destruction of the economy through Cap and Tax, we should be thankful that the fall of the Republic was delayed for 8 years.

7 posted on 07/23/2009 2:16:11 AM PDT by rfp1234
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If the Right were focusing on something else—like the college records, or the Tony Rezko house deal, or the dead bodies scattered around Chicago—somebody would be saying, “Why aren’t you focusing on the birth certificate?”


8 posted on 07/23/2009 2:24:44 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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This has been the warning that I’ve seen from other conservatives and detractors. And while the mocking tone they use is offputting, I do take their warnings into serious consideration just as I will with this article.

The thing is though...if for whatever reason, Obama allowed Hawaii to reveal his birth certificate and there was nothing questionable about it, I wouldn’t be one of the ones who’d be embarrassed.

We have a right to know whether or not the man chosen to be the leader of the free world is elegible for the office. As of this point, he is throwing out smokescreens and allowing both the left and right to use Alinsky style tactics to keep the issue relegated to the “fringe”...at least that’s the perception.

That kind of arrogance only throws out more red flags for me and makes me wonder what he’s hiding. If it turns out he’s not hiding anything, I would walk away happy that at least his feet was held to the fire and he was made accountable to the American people.

I’m sure we’d be ribbed endlessly by those who think we’re freaks...but then that’s happening now anyway. So what’s the difference?

It’s not like I’m devoting my life to finding this out. My time is focused on defeating the leftist agenda of this adminstration to the best of my ability. This issue actually barely registers on my radar unless and until it becomes a story like it is now.


9 posted on 07/23/2009 2:41:56 AM PDT by PowerPro (United States of America : 1776-2008...RIP)
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Morris' strategy simple, let Bill get taken to task for Lewinsky, and thereby distract the investigators from the real Clinton crimes.

Bill Clinton fired Dick Morris in August 1996. The Lewinsky scandal didn't break until 1998.

11 posted on 07/23/2009 3:01:38 AM PDT by HAL9000 ("No one made you run for president, girl."- Bill Clinton)
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Harvard Law Review is a published public magazine. Anyone can look at it for the two years BHO was on its editorial staff and read the contents.


12 posted on 07/23/2009 3:13:45 AM PDT by Viet Vet in Augusta GA
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Of course, Obama may have given up his citizenship to travel to Indonesia at a time when American Citizens were not allowed to do so . .

That would have been Pakistan, not Indonesia.

This guy's "rope-a-dope" thesis may have some validity, but he needs to get his facts straight if he intends to pursue it. Birthers are way ahead of him on that score.

16 posted on 07/23/2009 3:39:35 AM PDT by logician2u
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Another factor, though, is if it turns out he was born in Kenya, this reveals a HUGE and intentional lie foisted on us by Obama, the Democratic party, and the media. A cover up from the very beginning of his run for the presidency.
19 posted on 07/23/2009 4:26:24 AM PDT by ArtDodger (Reread Animal Farm (with your kids))
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If everything else about hussein was not locked away and to the point that no one knows anything about his past... no school records... no passport records... no tax records etc... then this rope-a-dope might make sense... but everything about this guy's past is protected and locked away so that no one can get to those records... so no... he is hiding many things... amongst those things is the fact that he is illegally usurping Presidential powers. Sorry... no sale.

LLS

21 posted on 07/23/2009 4:29:52 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (hussein will NEVER be my President... NEVER!!!)
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Considering who is in charge in the Senate and House, it wouldn't matter if Obama was born in Kenya. If Obama were to go on television tonight and admit that he was born in Kenya, it wouldn't matter. The Democrat Party would ignore and trample the Constitution, again, just like they do every day. Why would this be different?

I keep hearing this argument. Medved foolishly makes a similar straw man argument about the courts - they will never unseat a sitting President.

OK. So what? That's not the point.

We have elections coming up in 2010 and 2012. If Obama can be shown to have been unqualified for the office he holds does any sane man or woman think that wouldn't have a huge and negative affect on the Democrat Party? Isn't it just possible that at least a few states would decline to let Obama on the ballot in 2012?

We are not wackos and we have the Libs on the run on this issue. They are scared and that is why the leftist media is responding to the challenge of the "birthers" with ridicule. That is all they have and they know it. Now is the time to push the issue harder than ever.

25 posted on 07/23/2009 4:50:42 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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I disagree with the author. We can fight him on more than one front. Just look at what's going on right now. Birthergate and ShamWowgate at the same time.
28 posted on 07/23/2009 4:59:54 AM PDT by McGruff (You birthers are going to destroy my presidency.)
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YES!!!!

Get off the f’ing Birth Certificate thing and look for evidence of what he actually DID prior to be elevated to Messiah.

He didn’t ‘do’ the birth certificate. But he DID have to put something in writing at Columbia, Harvard, Ill State Senate, US Senate, etc. etc. etc.

There has to be SOME written record that he existed. Where the hell is that stuff?

If our smartest minds are spending their times trying to figure out how the Birth Certificate he has is somehow created by the CIA, we are wasting valuable energy and time.

Where else are we expecting to discover the contradictions and evidence that Obama has ALWAYS been a socialist then the minds here on FreeRepublic? This stupid birth certificate thing doesn’t prove anything about WHAT HE HAS ALWAYS WANTED TO DO TO AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!

Get your heads out of your #sses and help stop Socialism in the form of ‘reform’. Are you all really going to fall for the biggest misdirection of all time????? Go see Penn & Teller if you want to be tricked. Follow the agenda. Agendas are not based on where you were born. They are based on how you were raised and WHO raised you.


31 posted on 07/23/2009 7:18:13 AM PDT by bpjam (Favorite Sign: "Why Do We Feel Like A Ship Off The Coast Of Somalia?")
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I do believe the press are bringing this up now because they know the healthcare bill is in big time trouble and they thought that this might give them some cover.

IT IS NOT WORKING.


32 posted on 07/23/2009 7:19:28 AM PDT by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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There is no such thing as the B-3 Bomber.


33 posted on 07/23/2009 7:47:12 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Where's this tagline thing everyone keeps talking about?)
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