Posted on 07/21/2009 6:32:52 PM PDT by pissant
The increasingly popular term for them is "Birthers" -- the indignant, frantic, seething fringe Republicans who are persuaded that there is strong doubt about where President Barack Obama was born and, therefore, strong doubt about the legitimacy of his presidency.
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Even assuming Obama was born in Kenya despite the considerable evidence that he was born in Hawaii, that five-year provision in the law was intended, pretty clearly, to prevent a person from claiming U.S. citizenship when he was born in another country to parents who were long-time residents of that country, simply on the grounds that one of his parents was still, technically a U.S. citizen.
Say "Jim" is born in the U.S., lives here until he's 11, moves with his parents to Germany, comes of age there, marries a German woman and, when he's 25, has a child. As a matter of national policy and common sense, we don't want Jim's child to be able to claim automatic U.S. citizenship -- he is born in Germany to long-time residents of Germany. Declaring him a U.S. citizen is fundamentally absurd.
The thinking behind the law seems to be that if Jim spent at least five of his 10 years after age 14 in the U.S. before moving to Germany, he has been sufficiently "Americanized" that his children shall be considered U.S. citizens.
It's fairly clear to me and, should push come to shove, will be fairly clear to the courts and to Congress, that the law was not intended to be a "gotcha!" moment used to deny citizenship to the children of life-long U.S. citizens in their late teens who happen to be out of the country when they give birth.
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Any chance we get we need to remind the media that a bunch of “nutjobs” demanded evidence of McCain’s eligibility.
I’m a birther.... and want to hold their feet to the fire.... people who don’t have anything to hide, don’t hide anything.
President Biden. The Horror the horror.
Wish they would start to address the underlying issue here that you cannot be natural born with a non-citizen father.
No. You see, back then, it was simply a respectable debate about immigration law and proper documentation.
Who knows how awful Biden would be for a short stint. But he cannot be worse than the boy marxist quisling.
I don't understand why 0bama simply doesn't make his birth certificate an open record. It would destroy the GOP at this point and buy him significant political capital.
Exactly. And while we're at it remind them that at the time Leahy, McCaskill, and Obama all agreed that natural born meant born to TWO citizen parents, PLURAL. Of which we know Obama was not born to TWO citizens by his own admission.
They cannot answer the very, very, simple question: why won’t Obama show us his original $12 Hawai’i BIRTH CERTIFICATE ?
(Not a “Certification of Live Birth “ which is only issued to parents of children born overseas ... and ALWAYS lists Hawaii as the place of birth)
Wow, such strong words of protest for such a kooky issue, huh?
True. At least Biden would allow himself to be handled by grownups. Zero the manchild has all the answers.
That's FORMER GOP to you, Mr. Matthews!
Send them the Constitutional clause. Unless an amendment is passed, ONLY A NATURAL BORN citizen may hold that office. The lames don’t even grasp basic civics.
President Biden would be more amusing than terrifying from my standpoint.
The fact that the MSM is having to concoct this junk legal analysis is telling. They need some spin to neutralize the truth...
Its the law of the land. Its in the US Constitution.
And IF the head of the Executive Branch is guilty of lying over the basics ('where he was born') - he can be expected to lie about anything and to consider himself above any law.
There is no amount of excuses the Chicago Tribune can conjure up -- if someone committed fraud to get elected President - he needs to be summarily dismissed and jailed as quickly as possible.
I would just settle for the one you get when you make a normal request for one. Most states simply state the place (usually city or county), state, date and time of birth but omit the hospital and doctor. This sort of certificate is good enough to get a US passport and it is good enough for me.
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