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To: grey_whiskers
“Consensus is not a reliable means of garnering truth...”

In mature scientific fields, absent evidence that cannot be integrated into the existing paradigm, consensus is what is assumed to be, an operates as, truth.

If you with to discuss climate change, we can do so on another thread.

7 posted on 07/18/2009 8:20:41 AM PDT by stormer
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To: stormer

“and operates as”


8 posted on 07/18/2009 8:21:31 AM PDT by stormer
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To: stormer
Yup.

And those assumptions may bite you in the ass.

It'd be nice to see the biologists being a little less doctrinaire, given that even Newtonian gravity is coming into question (dark matter, let alone relativity).

Even a token disclaimer would help.

Cheers!

10 posted on 07/18/2009 8:32:43 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: stormer
In mature scientific fields, absent evidence that cannot be integrated into the existing paradigm, consensus is what is assumed to be, an operates as, truth.

And 500 years from now, if we make it that far, people will bust a gut laughing at that assessment of science as we know it today.

Consensus is NEVER the means to determine truth. Truth stands alone and is not determined by popular opinion.

12 posted on 07/18/2009 8:49:21 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: stormer
In mature scientific fields, absent evidence that cannot be integrated into the existing paradigm, consensus is what is assumed to be, an operates as, truth.

So . . . . you're saying that when evidence that doesn't fit your worldview is not found, the self-proclaimed scientifically sanctified community agrees on one particular diktat and ridicules all other theories?

If I've got that wrong, could you correct me without using the terms 'paradigm' or 'consensus'?

26 posted on 07/18/2009 9:49:25 AM PDT by skeptoid (AA, UE, MBS [with oak leaf clusters])
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To: stormer

“In mature scientific fields, absent evidence that cannot be integrated into the existing paradigm, consensus is what is assumed to be, an operates as, truth.”

What gobbledygook.

I’m assuming that since I am interested in creation science that I’m lumped into the immature side since I question macro evolution and I may not necessarily agree with your “existing paradigm”, or “truth”.

BTW, is global warming similarly segregated and which portion of that debate is mature and immature? Oh, that’s right, that’s for another thread. Sorry, I was trying to see where you believe I reside on that issue.


27 posted on 07/18/2009 10:05:59 AM PDT by b359 (The goat is old and gnarly....)
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To: stormer; grey_whiskers; metmom
In mature scientific fields, absent evidence that cannot be integrated into the existing paradigm, consensus is what is assumed to be, an operates as, truth.

If you with to discuss climate change, we can do so on another thread.

In other words grey whiskers, the cult of evolution is somehow above your obvious observations!.

Stormer isn't willing to see AGW isn't the subject, rather consensus is, and this is why he has to deflect your keen observations and suggest discussing AGW on another thread.

As predictable as the sun coming up.

39 posted on 07/18/2009 12:05:20 PM PDT by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for g!ood men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: stormer

“In mature scientific fields, absent evidence that cannot be integrated into the existing paradigm, consensus is what is assumed to be, an operates as, truth.”

Which “mature scientific field” would that be?


288 posted on 07/19/2009 7:12:27 PM PDT by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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