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Trailer: ‘Creation’ — ‘You’ve Killed God, Sir’
bighollywood.breitbart.com ^ | 07/18/2009 | Big Hollywood

Posted on 07/18/2009 7:39:00 AM PDT by Gordon Greene

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To: Star Traveler

INDEED.

Thx.


321 posted on 07/19/2009 8:17:10 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: GodGunsGuts; metmom; RFEngineer; AndrewC; Ha Ha Thats Very Logical; stormer; Gordon Greene; ...

Thought you all might be interested in this article.

It kinda throws a ‘monkey wrench’ into the works.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2296362/posts


322 posted on 07/19/2009 8:22:52 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: UCANSEE2

Interesting!


323 posted on 07/19/2009 9:32:55 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: UCANSEE2

Or maybe a wrench into the monkey.
If DNA from blood is different to any degree from other tissues then the blood samples taken from different human populations to show relatedness and history are now questionable.

Thanks for the heads up!


324 posted on 07/19/2009 9:37:35 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: metmom

Thanks for the ping!


325 posted on 07/19/2009 9:40:29 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: CodeToad
It is a fact that descent with modification takes place (evolution). A theory has been developed to explain how and why that modification occurs (the theory of evolution).
326 posted on 07/20/2009 7:04:26 AM PDT by stormer
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To: UCANSEE2
“Exactly how MANY species of life forms are there on the Earth?”

That is unknown and probably unknowable. To complicate matters, the definition of specie is subject to debate.

327 posted on 07/20/2009 7:08:01 AM PDT by stormer
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To: CodeToad

There are many, for example biology, chemistry, geology, etc.


328 posted on 07/20/2009 7:13:59 AM PDT by stormer
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To: CodeToad

Without degree does not equal without training. And would you advocate for a system where there was no regulatory authority regarding the practice of medicine?


329 posted on 07/20/2009 7:42:50 AM PDT by stormer
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To: CodeToad
Modern scientific consensus, a product of formal education, a worldwide exchange of information, and a process of peer review, is not perfect. It is, however, far superior to the reality of earlier times, where only a handful of the population could even read. Even so, few educated people believed the Earth was flat. And in relativistic terms, the Earth IS the center of the universe.
330 posted on 07/20/2009 7:50:31 AM PDT by stormer
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To: stormer

“It is a fact that descent with modification takes place”

Actually, I have neither read nor heard of any information that says DNA modification takes place. We know that many animals are similar in appearance and design but no one to date that I know of has conclusively proved one animal muted to another. It is a good theory based on similarities but no one to date has made the proof. We simply have not had the level of science capable of suchaa thing. We are very, very close to mapping DNA sequences to the point that we might be able to some time soon, but not as of yet.


331 posted on 07/20/2009 8:57:22 AM PDT by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: stormer
To complicate matters, the definition of specie is subject to debate.

Puts the statement "Evolution is a fact" on pretty shaky grounds.

Did you read the article about how DNA is not identical in every cell of a life form?

332 posted on 07/20/2009 9:08:43 AM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: stormer

“And would you advocate for a system where there was no regulatory authority regarding the practice of medicine?”

Yes, I would. My family has a long history of medical services and I know for fact that few regs or licenses mean much. The industry regulates itself just fine through medical boards and internal credentials. The government has only gotten in the way of medical services and now Obama wants you to believe even more government is the answer.

I am all for safe testing of medicines and credentials for doctors and nurses, but not government credentials. How can people who know so little about medical practices regulate it? You vote for an elected official who knows nothing about medicine and then you want that person to regulate medicine?


333 posted on 07/20/2009 9:08:50 AM PDT by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: CodeToad

“We are very, very close to mapping DNA sequences to the point that we might be able to some time soon, but not as of yet.”


Uh.... you better read this first.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2296362/posts


334 posted on 07/20/2009 9:15:39 AM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: CodeToad

Really? The you probably want to catch up on the literature. Here’s a paper from the National Academy of Sciences cited over 2200 times:

Dynamics of mitochondrial DNA evolution in animals: amplification and sequencing with conserved primers

T D Kocher, W K Thomas, A Meyer, S V Edwards, S Pääbo, F X Villablanca, and A C Wilson

http://www.pnas.org/content/86/16/6196.abstract


335 posted on 07/20/2009 10:00:35 AM PDT by stormer
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To: UCANSEE2
"Puts the statement "Evolution is a fact" on pretty shaky grounds."

Why? How do you define "species"? Lions and tigers can interbreed, but no one would claim they are the same species, but a chijuajuah and a Irish wolfhound, which are both Canis lupus familiaris, cannot.

336 posted on 07/20/2009 10:07:01 AM PDT by stormer
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To: CodeToad

Where did I say the regulatory authority needed to be the government? But on the other hand, what other body has the capability to issue licenses? Would you fly in an airliner with an unlicensed pilot at the controls?


337 posted on 07/20/2009 10:13:45 AM PDT by stormer
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To: stormer

“Would you fly in an airliner with an unlicensed pilot at the controls?”

Free market takes care of that. Besides, if you knew the pilot and mechanics requirements you wouldn’t fly.


338 posted on 07/20/2009 12:01:28 PM PDT by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: stormer
Species is in the eye of the beholder. I can find a dozen different definitions of “species” and since lions and tigers can be interbred as can chihuahuas and wolfhounds they can be classed as the same species.
339 posted on 07/20/2009 12:51:39 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: stormer

And really, the definition of species is not the core issue.

How do you define Evolution?


340 posted on 07/20/2009 2:56:04 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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