Posted on 07/16/2009 8:01:10 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
The weirdly persistant belief held by many Americans that President Barack Obama is not a natural-born citizen of the United States has been back in the news lately thanks to Major Stefan Cook, the "birther" soldier who was granted has requested conscientious objector status because he refused to fight for a president he believes is illegitimate. There's also a bill gathering some support in the House that would change election law to require candidates to prove their citizenship.
The birther phenomenon is predictable form of paranoia given the president's unusually exotic (for a president, anyway) background. But isn't the larger scandal that the anachronistic natural-born citizenship requirement in Article II of the constitution still even exists?
Let's imagine that Barack Obama had been born in Indonesia or Kenya or anywhere else for that matter, and hadn't become a citizen until moving to Hawaii to live with his grandparents. Is there one good reason why that would make him less fit to be president?
Put another way, is there one good reason why foreign-born governors Arnold Schwarzenegger and Jennifer Granholm can't legally run for president but Mark Sanford and Sarah Palin can?
Naturalized citizens like Henry Kissinger, Zbigniew Brzezinski, and Madeline Albright have been allowed into the highest positions in the U.S. national security establishment without anyone questioning their loyalty. Why shouldn't voters be allowed to decide whether a foreign-born candidate is American enough to be president?
(Excerpt) Read more at blog.foreignpolicy.com ...
I know, I meant ‘you’ in the general sense, not you ‘incindiary’.
PLAN A - Cover up all evidence which exposes 0bama as a foreigner.
PLAN B - If Plan A fails, lay the groundwork in trying to convince the masses that being a natural born citizen doesn't really matter.
What was the date of the presser?
no idea at this point, just found it
pretty much says amoral
yurr standards are pretty low.
Rovers last movement was born here
you better visit youtube!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Lrf8DbrJH0
Lets try June 18, 2008. If you google Larry Sinclair you will find two or three maybe more youtube presentations.
Were both of his parents American citizens and were they in Panama because his father was assigned there while in the service of the United States?
obumpa
Either that or the military should step aside while several million patriots takes care of the situation.
This is a perfect Saul Alinsky technique!
1) Do what you like.
2) Have fun doing it.
3) Do what you know how to do.
Every little chip off the block reveals Obama for the fraud that he his.
To Joshua Keating: FOREIGN POLICY Div. Washington Post
Joshua why don’t you plant a pine tree in your butt to pay
offset for your intake of air and your worthless exhale of
worthless Co2 carbon. All you lib’s would like to abolish
the US Constitution completely. In my opinion that it is people like yourself that cause others to become pro-choice!
If you don’t like the rules, you should try to change them before the game, not after.
Joshua...
The Constitution is a wonderful document. Built into the Constitution is the method of changing it. It’s called the Amendment process. That process has even been used over the years, and more than once. Some of those amendments have been good, others, not so much.
But the true beauty of that process is that it requires a lot of work and debate to get it done. Unlike legislation, especially that which is passed without the legislators even bothering to read it. The men who came up with the Constitution of the United States really knew what they were doing. Do you really think that today’s crop of political hacks could do better? I can’t think of a single elected official in Washington, DC, who is worthy enough to shine the shoes of men like Madison, Jefferson, Franklin, and certainly Washington.
The Constitution is the legal framework for our form of government, not a democracy (also known as “mob rule”), which the Founders abhorred, but a Constitutional Republic. Ignore that framework, and you begin to destroy that form of government. If you decide that this is (yet another) part of the Constitution that can be ignored, what is the next part? You want to substitute “the rule of men” for the “rule of law.” The very simple fact is that history should have taught us by now that once a government begins to ignore its own constitution, the government ALWAYS becomes oppressive. I dare you to name one, in recorded history, that shows me to be wrong.
It’s simple to allow non-naturally born citizens to become president. Simply amend the Constitution. It has nothing to do with “who would be the better president.” Frankly, every one of those you mentioned would be really bad choices, in my opinion.
Mark
FOREIGN POLICY is published by the Slate Group,a division of Washingtonpost.Newsweek Interactive, LLC.
And isn't it the magazine of the CFR, or am I thinking about "Foreign Affairs?"
Mark
You posted, in part: I can’t think of a single elected official in Washington, DC, who is worthy enough to shine the shoes of men like Madison, Jefferson, Franklin, and certainly Washington.
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shine the shoes?? you racist! /sarc
I used that wording on purpose... I was referring to Joe Pesci's character in "Goodfellas." Pesci's character then murdered the "made man" who referred back to his days as a shoe-shine kid... Just like these "elected officials" are murdering our Republic.
Mark
It's called "the law". Not that that ever matters to libholes.
These bastards are preparing to admit the TRUTH about the usurper. They are smoothing the path, maybe for a Congressional resolution that would serve in their minds to bypass the constitution.
Maybe its because they wanted to avoid the 1000 years of mess that was Europe, where the king of France was actually in England, or Spain, or whereever.
Most of northern Italy was controlled by a variety of foreign born heads of ‘state’, as it were. Not that there were the kinds of ‘states’ we have today.
It was just Jefferson and Madison trying to keep the US from making the same mistakes Europe had during the last 2000 years of governance.
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