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My boss?! The only person I take orders from is the Turtleneck Woman In All Black and even the NSA doesn't know her name! |
Posted on 07/16/2009 9:59:09 AM PDT by Fizziks
A federal judge this morning dismissed the suit filed here by a U.S. Army reservist who says he shouldn't have to go to Afghanistan because he believes Barack Obama was never eligible to be president.
Judge Clay Land sided with the defense, which claimed in its response to Maj. Stefan Frederick Cook's suit, filed July 8 with the U.S. District Court for the Middle District of Georgia, that Cook’s suit is "moot" in that he already has been told he doesn’t have to go to Afghanistan, so the relief he is seeking has been granted.
"Federal court only has authority of actual cases and controversies," Land said. "The entire action is dismissed for lack of subject matter jurisdiction."
I agree.
Of course I am NOT saying that. I am just saying that we understand the potential consequences, and although it is the absolutely right thing to do, it's not going to be "a party" when and if it's done. It could likely be complete chaos for a while until the country rights itself.
Thanks for the Florida board ping:)
I think the Orly Taitz website is a good starting point, don’t you ?
There is also a report from someone who was in court when the initial case presentation was made, and who provided quite a bit of background.
There is PACER - but I haven’t checked yet to see how much of that was entered into the record: pages of ss numbers, etc.
I think you overestimate the importance of the Federal Government, personally, but I understand what you're getting at.
Remember Joseph McCarthy and the case of Air Force Lt. Milo Radulovich (who eventually became Reagan’s weather man).
I apologize for my snarky tone it was not directed at you personally.
We who have been following this story have been urging everyone who would listen just how serious all this is. We all wanted him to be vetted before the election not after. We couldn’t get a fair hearing.
The bottom line is, we are either a country of laws (The Constitution) or we are not. IF he is guilty of breaking our laws he and those who were complicit must be held accountable or we are already in so much danger it is frightening.
Balony troll. You haven’t been here 9 years. The mod should have booted you a couple days ago.
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My boss?! The only person I take orders from is the Turtleneck Woman In All Black and even the NSA doesn't know her name! |
He gets his news via The HuffPo. We know this.
There you go fixed it for you...
The evidence contained in Exhibit E shows that Barack Hussein Obama might have used as many as 149 addresses and 39 social security numbers prior to assuming the office of President. The social security number most commonly used by Barack Hussein Obama, is one issued in the state of Connecticut, the state where Barack Hussein Obama never resided and it shows him to be 119 years old. This coupled with the fact that Mr. Obama’s grandmother, Madeline Dunham was a volunteer at the Oahu Circuit Court Probate Department and had access to the social security numbers of the deceased, constitutes circumstantial evidence casting serious doubt on the legitimacy of Mr. Obama and his claims of being born on US territory. Exhibit F, the expert affidavit of renowned forensic document examiner Sandra Ramsey Lines, states that the certification of live birth posted by Mr. Obama as verification of his legitimacy, cannot be verified as genuine, and should be presumed fraudulent.
The dismissal did not answer the question if whether Obama is eligible to serve as Commander-in-Chief. It appears that the move to revoke the deployment answers that question for us. Yes, there will be a day when Obama will have to present doucments (i.e. Lightfoot vs. Bowen in Santa Ana Federal Court).
If the Fed Govt crashes, so does the stock market and everyone's 401K and stock is in the toilet. Banks are up for grabs and so is National Security. Our soldiers overseas won't know what to do and neither will the rest of the world know what to do with us while we sort the mess out.
I agree that on a day to day basis the Fed is seemingly irrelevant -- at least until it isn't there.
I'm a Constitutionalist and am all for reducing the Fed, but bringing it crashing down to nothing with a pile of rubble in its place is something else all together.
And despite realizing the potential consequences, I still support Major Cook. Because to accept a level of potential corruption in our government that could be so pervasive that it even potentially covers the ineligibility of a US President and persecutes anyone who demands proof of his eligibility, is beyond all reason to anyone who loves this country, which I do!
His information states he has posted on FR for years. He has been registered on this site for 6 months now.
Someone who does not agree with your position is not necessarily a Moveon or DU plant, troll, or liberal.
Well ma’am, here I am in 2006 - right here on FR - (via link).
http://mrmeangenesnews.blogspot.com/2006/01/al-gore-nevermore-al-gore-who-won-2000.html
His information states he has posted on FR for years. He has been registered on this site for 6 months now.
Someone who does not agree with your position is not necessarily a Moveon or DU plant, troll, or liberal.
I'm not saying she/he/it isn't a plant, a troll, or a liberal ... he/she/it could very well be.
Has anyone checked to see if he/she/it really has posted to FR for years under the old name like claimed?
That’s just it, Code..., I read the thing, I have it, and the Major addresses the potential illegitimacy of the NCA. Nowhere in the order is there anything that requests whether that explicit order must be obeyed. Maybe it’s road-hypnosis (the thing is looong and dry as a kiss from my ex-wife...), or that quirk where the eye misses how many “F”’s are in a sentence, but I looked for something like what you describe - “...Cook only asked if that particular order be obeyed...” - and didn’t find it.
To my layman’s eyes, this was a lawsuit based on the NCA, not on the specific orders for deployment.
There’s gotta be somebody on the freep with legal training who can read this thing and help me out on this...
JG
I look forward to that. :>)))))
I don't think we know this for a fact, yet. If it's true (that Obama or the WH exerted influence on rescinding the order), then it will certainly come out.
It may well be that the Army treated the lawsuit as if it were a request for 'relief' from the deployment order. As I understand it, the Major was an "augmentee" to the unit being deployed, and that it is not totally unusual for such a reservist to get a deployment cancelled for hardship reasons.
There's something else that boths me. The major actually volunteered to deploy on May 8th. His orders came through about a month later. Then he sues? While he may have a legal point, this timeline is a little bit fishy.
The difference in this case being that Mr. Cook is a reservist, and is not subject to the UCMJ until he's been activated, which he was not.
Ever been in the military? The rescinding of Maj. Cook's orders is highly unusual. In fact, I'd venture to guess that it's unprecedented - which tells that something else has to be going on.
There is more to Mr. Cook's fate than a simple revocation of orders, though that in and of itself was an appropriate action.
Mr. Cook has also found himself out of his (civilian) DOD contractor job, apparently as a result of this action. The DoD revoked his security clearance, and thus he was apparently no longer eligible for the post he held. That, too, was probably an appropriate response, given that his political/legal activities can reasonably be seen as a security risk.
I would imagine that he is also no longer a member of the Reserves.
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