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To: john mirse

As I understand it, when a presidential candidate signs his routine eligibility form to run in primaries in each state, we the public have 1 to 5 days to challenge the eligibility of the candidate.

1. So I say this: We must be ready in 2011 and 2012 to challenge presidential candidate Obama when he signs his eligibility application before each primary in each state, because we only have 1 to 5 days to challenge Obama.

2. My point is this: Challenging presidential candidates in that 1 to 5 day window is a state function and not a federal function.

3. 2010 elections: Come to think of it, we should challenge candidates for Senator and Representative throughout the country as to their age and citizenship eligibility by asking them to present their long form birth certificates.

4. If the 2010 candidates don’t want to provide their long form birth certificates for legal or personal reasons, then I say that we simply tell them that we won’t vote for them.


The state of Hawaii no longer issues “long form” birth certificates, only the short form. The short form is acceptable for all legal purposes including federal issuance of passports. The same is true in many states.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2009/jul/01/worldnetdaily/birthers-claim-gibbs-lied-when-he-said-obamas-birt/


144 posted on 07/15/2009 6:54:23 PM PDT by jamese777
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To: jamese777
The truth is, you are confusing issues and making statements that don't matter much on this issue.

The “vault copy” Birth Certificate has NEVER been released by Obama, and we deserve to see that document, if it does exist.

157 posted on 07/15/2009 7:32:41 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: jamese777
The state of Hawaii no longer issues “long form” birth certificates, only the short form. The short form is acceptable for all legal purposes including federal issuance of passports. The same is true in many states. http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-

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That may be true, but think about the following:

1. A person running for president must be at least, I believe, 35 years old.

2. A person born in Hawaii at least 35 years ago decides to run for President.

3. Important: I would think that most persons born in Hawaii at least 35 years ago would have a copy of their birth certificate from 35 years ago.

4. My point is this: I believe that 35 years ago Hawaii DID issue long form birth certificates, the one with the doctor and hospital names on it.

5. I would also suspect that if a person 35 years or older lost his birth certificate, say, 20 years ago, Hawaii would sent him a long form birth certificate 20 years ago or even 10 or 5 years ago, if he requested it.

6. President Obama: Do you really think that Hawaii would turn down the President of the United States if he asked for a copy of his long form birth certificate from 1961?

7. And if, for some unbelievable reason, Hawaii did turn down President Obama's request to get a copy of his long form birth certificate, do you really believe that a Hawaiian federal judge would also turn down President Obama's request, through his high-priced lawyers, to get a copy of his long form birth certificate? I don't think so.

8. Finally, why would then Senator Obama request a copy of his Hawaii birth certificate in 2007, because the date stamped on the birth certificate we see on the internet is stamped 2007?

9. Do you think that Obama lost his birth certifcate stamped with the date 1961, the year when he says that he was born, and that is the reason why he had to send away for a new one in 2007?

184 posted on 07/15/2009 10:28:16 PM PDT by john mirse
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