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The Real Sarah Palin (Record in office has not been as conservative as she is personally)
Powerline ^ | 7/9/2009 | John Hindraker

Posted on 07/09/2009 8:13:09 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind
One thing that makes me a little uncomfortable hearing Palin say is "we want govt to be on the side of the people". A true conservative knows this is ridiculous. Govt by definition is only on the side of itself. The interests of the govt and those of the people are always at odds. Think of govt as cancer, and people, as host tissue. The only useful thing a govt can do is disappear from peoples lives, or at least shrink to the point where it's not relevant other than for maintaining law and order and protecting people's rights. Govt can never be on the "side of the people".
21 posted on 07/09/2009 8:37:07 PM PDT by libh8er
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To: SeekAndFind

This isn’t a dictatorship (yet). A top political leader has to negotiate with people who may be outright enemies. Babylon 5 had a good line about that. After the heroes liberate Earth and Mars, the new President laments, “That’s the problem with forming a new government; you have to negotiate with people that six months ago you would have just had shot!”


22 posted on 07/09/2009 8:38:44 PM PDT by Clock King
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To: GregH
Most people think Sarah’s reasons for resigning are very silly.

Those "most people" are just as anonymous as the GOP/ex-McCain flunkies who criticize Palin in the shadows.

She could have stayed as governor till 2010 and easily start her Presidential campaign after that and can raise tons of money.

She wouldn't have gotten anything done from now until 2010 and by the time the 2012 presidential race got underway, her term would have been characterized as being "scandal-plagued". Furthermore, her term would have finished in Dec of 2010 and she would have needed several months to get an exploratory committee underway and hire a staff. Especially being in Alaska, all that would have taken up crucial time. You should realize that last presidential election actually began just days before the 2006 mid-terms ended.

At this stage, her decision to quit does not add up and has ended up pulling down her chances for 2012 nomination.

She has given plausible reasons why she is stepping down and we don't know if she's really going to run in 2012 or not.

23 posted on 07/09/2009 8:39:20 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist ("President Obama, your agenda is not new, it's not change, and it's not hope" - Rush Limbaugh 02/28)
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To: GregH
At this stage, her decision to quit does not add up

YES it does.

and has ended up pulling down her chances for 2012 nomination.

No it hasn't.
24 posted on 07/09/2009 8:42:30 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: SeekAndFind

http://www.1260.am/programming/podcasts/popup/?ID=1864
listen to this

She’s not thinking about 2012; she don’t care if it will help her or not for future political office; she dont follow the conventional route for politican; she’s not your typical politican; she’s retiring because the frivilous lawsuit has made governing rest of her term difficult; she has done this before as head of oil and gas commission she she retired because of the corruption there


25 posted on 07/09/2009 8:43:14 PM PDT by 4rcane
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To: SeekAndFind

Since when did “finishing the job” mean sitting on the bench until the clock ran out? She accomplished much, I’d wager more than she promised when running for office. Ultimately she stopped being a defenseless pinata for liberal loonies, and that must be why people found fault with it.


26 posted on 07/09/2009 8:44:54 PM PDT by Jacob Morgan
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To: SeekAndFind
Actually, the Democrats' frivolous ethics charges represent an opportunity. Alaska is a Republican-leaning state. If Palin were to push back against the Democrats--locally, not nationally--she could make them pay a price for their indefensible tactic, and likely cause them to back off. As for the $500,000, that is a minimal amount for a politician of Palin's stature to raise by setting up a defense committee. Donors would quickly furnish a war chest. On a worst-case scenario, Todd Palin could sign a book contract tomorrow for a $500,000 advance. The facts just don't support the idea that quitting as governor is a reasonable response to the Democrats' vicious but entirely unsuccessful ethics-complaint strategy.

Ironically, she helped create those ethics laws which make it harder to set up a legal defense fund.

27 posted on 07/09/2009 8:45:54 PM PDT by FTJM
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I personally don’t see any reason why shs couldn’t have finished her term up in December of 2010 and then swung down to the lower 48. In fact no one would’ve faulted her for leaving (still as governor) in September or October for some last month campaigning.

It’s almost like McCain suspending his campaign to me. A total mystery in logic.


28 posted on 07/09/2009 8:47:26 PM PDT by Norman Bates
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

“Those “most people” are just as anonymous as the GOP/ex-McCain flunkies who criticize Palin in the shadows. “

You are paranoid and see a anti Palin conspiracy everywhere by McCain/Romney operatives.

Rasmussen poll says about 40% of Republican voters think Palin has hurt her chances by resigning.

So you are not saying 40% of republicans are McCain/Romney operatives < sarcasm off>

“She wouldn’t have gotten anything done from now until 2010 and by the time the 2012 presidential race got underway, her term would have been characterized as being “scandal-plagued”. “

Since she has successfully fought her ethics charges, then why would she be scandal plagued.

‘Furthermore, her term would have finished in Dec of 2010 and she would have needed several months to get an exploratory committee underway and hire a staff. ‘

She could still set up a exploratory committeein Aug/Sept 2010 after she has announced she would not seek reelection. What is so difficult about it.

“She has given plausible reasons why she is stepping down and we don’t know if she’s really going to run in 2012 or not. “

Her reasons simply are not convincing to a large section of Republican primary voters. While she was the overwhelming favourite to win the nomination before this, after resigning she has lost some of the edge, it is still too early to speculate on her chances at the 2002 election.


29 posted on 07/09/2009 8:47:50 PM PDT by GregH
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Is there a thread about anything that you don't try & hijack & make into a Mitt bash? Just curious. There was absolutely nothing in this article even remotely having to do w/ Romney. RDS?
30 posted on 07/09/2009 8:49:49 PM PDT by Reno232
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To: GregH
Most people think Sarah’s reasons for resigning are very silly.

Yea, most people, including the likes of the DNC, the media, every possible moderate (RINO) GOP Presidential Candidate, the RNC.

The only people who do believe her STATED reasons were both reasonable and correct, are red-blooded American citizens including conservatives, independents, and even 17% of the Democrats as a recent poll has shown.

But Ed Rendell, the loud-mouth Democratic Governor of Pennsylvania, and many other extremely left wing people agree with you so you are in good company.
31 posted on 07/09/2009 8:50:53 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: Reno232; 2ndDivisionVet
Is there a thread about anything that you don't try & hijack & make into a Mitt bash? Just curious. There was absolutely nothing in this article even remotely having to do w/ Romney. RDS?

What you romneybots so charmingly refer to as RDS, is actually, in all reality, the truth about a very marginalized man, Mitt Romney. Marginalized by his own choices, not be somebody spreading lies about him.
32 posted on 07/09/2009 8:52:58 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: GregH

She could have stayed as governor till 2010 and easily start her Presidential campaign after that and can raise tons of money.

And the anklebiters and critics would of bitched saying “she wasn’t spending enough time working for our state!!!”

Everytime she left, there would had been one bogus ethics charge after another.

Nothing was geting nothing done...she was spending her time fending off bogus ethics complaints and racking up lawyer bills.


33 posted on 07/09/2009 8:53:06 PM PDT by ak267
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To: lonestar67; SpaceBar

That part of the article, the accomplishments, was a direct quote from Sarah Palin’s resignation speech.


34 posted on 07/09/2009 8:54:21 PM PDT by donna ( I am confident that we can create a Kingdom right here on Earth. - Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: ak267

“Everytime she left, there would had been one bogus ethics charge after another.”

So to just escape those bogus ethics charges( which she had no problem clearing and she had no issues in raising money to fight against) she just resigned?

It is bizarre.


35 posted on 07/09/2009 8:55:01 PM PDT by GregH
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To: SoConPubbie

Forty percent (40%) of Republican voters nationwide say Sarah Palin’s decision to resign as governor of Alaska hurts her chances of winning the party’s presidential nomination in 2012.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections2/election_2012/40_of_gop_voters_say_resignation_hurts_palin_s_chances_in_2012 .

So you are saying 40% of Republicans are wrong?

That is a big part of the base to upset so early in a Presidential campaign, Sarah has done that.


36 posted on 07/09/2009 8:57:13 PM PDT by GregH
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To: Reno232; redangus
Please tell all of us here in 1,000 words or less, why we should get behind Governor Mitt Romney in 2012. Maybe I just haven't had it fully explained to me, yet. Is it his introduction of socialized medicine in Massachusetts? His pro-abortion stance until he decided to run for the White House? His not-so-subtle backstabbing of conservative Republicans (Fred Thompson and Sarah Palin just to name a few) or his working side-by-side with Senator Ted Kennedy?
37 posted on 07/09/2009 8:59:58 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Democracy is the art and science of running the circus from the monkey cage. ~H.L. Mencken)
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To: Norman Bates

It was either remain in office for another year, or become bankrupt. Which would you choose if you were in her situation? She has children to raise, she chose family over Governorship, I can’t find fault with that. People should do some investigating and find out the ones who were funding these jerks who were filing these complaints


38 posted on 07/09/2009 9:00:47 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Norman Bates
I personally don’t see any reason why shs couldn’t have finished her term up in December of 2010 and then swung down to the lower 48

Norm, she like millions of other Americans, see what's going on in Congress and the fecklessness of the GOP and wants to make a difference. She wants to get in there and promote conservative principles and help candidates who share her vision win.

39 posted on 07/09/2009 9:01:56 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist ("President Obama, your agenda is not new, it's not change, and it's not hope" - Rush Limbaugh 02/28)
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To: GregH
“She wouldn’t have gotten anything done from now until 2010 and by the time the 2012 presidential race got underway, her term would have been characterized as being “scandal-plagued”. “

Since she has successfully fought her ethics charges, then why would she be scandal plagued.


Boy was that a dis-engenuous statement.

You, and I, and anyone with half a brain-cell left no that the ethics charges would keep coming and coming and coming further bankrupting the Palins and her staff would be spending just as much time (80% according to her staff) and accomplishing little more than spending more of the State of Alaska's precious little monetary resources.

This alone, the continual barage of the ethics charges would be used by a totally biased media as proof of how "dirty" Governor Palin was.

Really a lackluster post with really no substance as usual.

Point out to us really important matters like where Palin is wrong on the issues, how about something, anything where she has actually failed at Governing Alaska, how about some type of infidelity that affects her character?

Oh wait, you can't!

All you can do is mimic the lame, empty, devoid of any real substance OPINIONS of the Press, the DNC, Ed Rendell, and the supporters of potential primary opponents.

Thanks for your unsupported opinion concerning Sarah.

Oh, and by the way, who are you really supporting for 2012?
40 posted on 07/09/2009 9:02:31 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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