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I hope this summary will help to restore a little sanity to the debate.

To the "end times" crowd that was running amok on FR yesterday, the Pope is not advocating a one-world government. Papal encyclicals must be read in toto and they do not give themselves to sound bites nor to "cut and paste" type analysis so beloved of the secular press and some Freepers.

The entire encyclical is HERE. It is long, scholarly and demands thought.

1 posted on 07/08/2009 7:07:41 AM PDT by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

[To the “end times” crowd that was running amok on FR yesterday, the Pope is not advocating a one-world government.]

Be honest with yourself. Yes, he is indeed advocating one world government and the Bible tells Christians so.


2 posted on 07/08/2009 7:14:38 AM PDT by kindred (Blessed be the LORD out of Zion, which dwelleth at Jerusalem... Ps.135:20)
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To: marshmallow
What happened to preaching salvation by
calling on the NAME:
YHvH is my salvation?

Or by living by YHvH's commandments if you love Him?

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

3 posted on 07/08/2009 7:20:30 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: marshmallow
Whether or not he is "advocating" a one-world government or not is irrelevant.

God has told us that there will be a one-world government and a one-world economic system and therefore these things will happen. It's just interesting that in these last days that the world is experiencing, the Pope comes out with an encyclical which appears to accept the fact that a one-world economic system is in the process of becoming a reality and appears to attempt to put as human a face as possible on this impending demonic monstrosity.

God bless him.

4 posted on 07/08/2009 7:24:21 AM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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"a profoundly new way of understanding business enterprise" and a global economic system that values the common good above private profits."

This sounds like Marxism to me.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
5 posted on 07/08/2009 7:27:55 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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“The entire encyclical is HERE. It is long, scholarly and demands thought.” ~ marshmallow

This is what it boils down to:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2287244/posts?page=7#7


6 posted on 07/08/2009 7:28:15 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (Obama has entered the "cracking stage" of his presidency. ~ Gagdad)
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To: marshmallow

As always there are those that will write summaries to suit their own slanted view of the world. My only problem with it is that I would not call on the UN to mow my front lawn let alone be in charge of anything. It is the most corrupt, satanically inspired organisation on the planet.

Mel


8 posted on 07/08/2009 7:31:08 AM PDT by melsec (A Proud Aussie)
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To: marshmallow

Thank you for posting this.

Anti-Catholics need only a crumb of a lie to become absolutely hysterical. Their ability to think is trumped by their hatred.


10 posted on 07/08/2009 7:32:59 AM PDT by stentorian conservative (I'm tired of being Johnny B. Goode and I'm gonna start being Johnny Reb.)
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* the failure of world leaders to cope with the phenomenon of migration-- which is often provoked by intolerable situations in undeveloped countries, and aggravated by the failure of host nations to protect the dignity of immigrants;

On its face it recommends violating sovereign law.

Brother Ben needs to read Paul again about obeying
the rulers that YHvH has placed over us.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
11 posted on 07/08/2009 7:35:01 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: marshmallow

Sorry, the Pope went commie. He calls for redistributing energy from rich to poor countries, which is also a misnomer...


13 posted on 07/08/2009 7:40:57 AM PDT by fooman (Get real with Kim Jung Mentally Ill about proliferation)
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To: marshmallow
The pope may be a good and holy man, wise in the Catholic tradition, but as an economist or politician he comes up lacking:

* the role of a "largely speculative" approach to finance in precipitating the current worldwide economic crisis;

Financing - by its very nature - is speculative. What is broken is not the speculative model; what is broken is the downside of speculation. In the name of "too big to fail" and other bailouts, we have eliminated the risk that accompanies speculation. With the risk gone, there is no internal regulation on speculation.

In our attempt to protect people, we have broken the very thing that should teach them how to protect themselves - self-preservation. In this case, we are giving the man a fish rather than teaching him how to fish, which is a decidedly NON-Christian attitude to take. We are to equip our brothers in all things, and protect those who cannot protect themselves. Rather, we are trying to protect everyone regardless of their own God-given abilities.

* the failure of world leaders to cope with the phenomenon of migration-- which is often provoked by intolerable situations in undeveloped countries, and aggravated by the failure of host nations to protect the dignity of immigrants;

There should be no protection of dignity for illegal immigration, and I know of very little issues with legal immigration (at least among the capitalist, free market nations).

Or can I immigrate (i.e.: pick up, move my items, then squat down) to the Vatican without worry? The pope will welcome me to pitch my tent on the grass outside St. Peter's and to live as I want? After all, he is now the head of a sovereign nation. What is the Vatican policy on immigration, or is this a case of the speck in your brother's eye, rather than your own plank?

* the "unregulated exploitation of earth's resources;"

Which is a result of the failure to teach self-preservation and promote capitalism (which inherently opposes a massive, single/central Government - see Milton Friedman's classic Capitalism and Freedom for more details about this). The socialist/central approach - a single, overriding authority - is what causes exploitation in that one's own life is not for one to decide. Your local environment is not for you to worry about, but for the Government.

The solution is not a world-wide authority; the solution is to give the people direct authority over their own area. Where capitalism flourishes, money follows, and the environment improves. Travel from Singapore to Kuala Lumpur - just a day's bus ride apart. You'll find Singapore infinitely more clean and modern. And you'll find that Singapore has centuries more history of being a free, capitalist nation where the rights of the invididual are protected.

The solution to solving the environment is not world-Government; the solution is to give every man his freedom, economically and politically. When a man has enough money to no longer worry about eating his next meal, he will instinctually begin cleaning and bettering his own environs.

* the importance of understanding that rights are always attached to corresponding duties;

Which he completely ignores in his dealing with speculation, or with the environment.

* the wrongful exploitation of international aid, which "has often been diverted from its proper ends;"

Only that aid which is Government-to-Government. Having been on a dozen missions trips (usually medical in nature) I can attest that money and resources given person-to-person get to where they need to go.

The solution here is not another Government, or an intra-Governmental agency; the solution is to get Governments out of the way and let man help fellow man directly. The world is AMAZINGLY small now - you can be anywhere you want within 24 hours, and usually for under $1500. For those who want to practice what they preach, the success of individual capitalism has given us the technology of air travel to do so affordably and easily.

* an "excessive zeal" for maintaining intellectual-property rights in the developed countries, thus suppressing opportunities for growth in the developing countries;

Because the output of the scientist, or artist, or other inventor is not to be as valued as the output of a mechanic or farm laborer? Who has fed more people: my cousin running a farm outside of Lewiston, Idaho, or the lead chemist at Montesano?

If the inventor wants to feed the world, or help the world with his invention, it is the capitalist system and the fundamental understanding of the rights of the individual to self-determination which guarantees the inventor can share his invention with the world at the price he believes is worthy. There is no law that you must set a single, world-wide price for your invention; give it away to some, charge others.

It is when Governments decide to ignore the rights of the inventor that the system breaks down. Suddenly the inventor must look to protect what he can, where he can. Government does not help in this case, it hinders.

* the anti-life approach that has infected the most advanced countries, producing a society that "ends up no longer finding the necessary motivation and energy to strive for man’s true good;

Yes, the social net folks. Pope Benedict XVI, please sit down with the Catholic leaders in Congress (starting with Nancy Pelosi) and get your flock under control. Or make a formal proclamation about their status as non-Catholics. Because right now your own flock is doing the damage here, and in much of Europe, too. Matthew 7:5 applies here really well...

* the importance of allowing the Christian faith to exert some moral guiding force, which can occur "only if God has a place in the public realm."

Governments have a history of repressing religion; it is the first thing to go since religion is one of the big forces in most people's lives that calls for allegiance beyond the State. Adding another world-wide intra-Governmental body will not stop that, for it will necessarily have to deem all religions equal, and thus recognize none. And end up with the atheists once again getting religion pushed out of everything in the name of "fairness".

This encyclical - as I am reading it, this summary from Catholic radio seems pretty fair - is proof positive that a pope is fallible, and contrary to Pius XII this encyclical should NOT end debate about the very nature of capitalism, individual self-determination, and freedom of the individual.

22 posted on 07/08/2009 9:01:39 AM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the sting of truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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