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To: vladimir998; Mr Rogers

No, I am not being presumptuous. Not at all. I am standing in confidence in my salvation. You go ahead and believe what your church tells you. I only hope and pray that you will be in heaven with the born again believers who have assurance of their salvation. I truly do.


767 posted on 07/13/2009 9:05:31 AM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: Marysecretary

You wrote:

“No, I am not being presumptuous. Not at all.”

Actually you are.

“I am standing in confidence in my salvation.”

No, you’re not. Confidence is not certainty. A man might be confident about getting a job, but that doesn’t mean he’s certain he’ll get it.

“You go ahead and believe what your church tells you.”

Scripture - THAT’S SCRIPTURE - tells us to have hope, not to have presumption.

“I only hope and pray that you will be in heaven with the born again believers who have assurance of their salvation. I truly do.”

I do not assume that those who assume they’ll be in heaven will actually be there. They may be. They may not be. But presumption of that type is wrong. We are taught by St. Paul to have hope not presumption.

“Why should I believe anything that Catholics put out about assurance of salvation? They obviously don’t believe it and will teach it from that perspective. It’s nonsense.”

Yes, the presumption of absolute assurance is nonsense. I choose to believe scripture and the Church instead. In scripture, St. Paul teaches us to have hope not presumption.


769 posted on 07/13/2009 9:35:11 AM PDT by vladimir998
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