For example:
"All those diocese which have good bishops who insist on orthodox teaching have seen their vocations to the priesthood go up in recent years. It has happened in my diocese."
"Because it’s true. I’ve seen it myself numerous times. I have had to teach the faith to a number of “former” or “ex” Catholics. Some accepted it and returned to the faith. Others, especially those who were divorced, wanted to use birth control, supported abortion, gay marraige, cohabitation etc. were too wedded to their Protestant sects to change."
Nope. You are the one doing that. You link to AMERICAN STATISTICS. I was writing about the whole world!
If you too the time to actually read what you linked to you would have noticed this:
Graduate Seminarians (that’s future priests in case you didn’t know):
Really? All of them?
1990 = 51,603 1995 = 54,154 2000 = 55,968 2005 = 58,538
(From the same table:)
Catholic Population:
1990 = 928.5m
1995 = 989.4m
2000 = 1.045b
2005 - 1.115b
Do the math and tell me the ratio of Graduate Seminarians to the Catholic Population is increasing. In fact show one single figure where the Ordained Priesthood shows an increase.
So, the number of seminarians world wide went up 7,000 in just 15 years. It’s still going up by the way. Again, these were the statistics YOU LINKED TO but apparently weren’t interested in actually reading. How embarrassing for you!
“Graduate-level seminarians 8,325 5,279 4,063 3,172 3,474 3,308 3,286”
Yeah, in America. I never said anything about this just being about America. And you INCREDIBLY wrote: “ Once again you mistake a localized occurrence and relate it to the universe.”
Play all the games you wish. The fact is the worldwide supply of Priests is diminishing.
So, according to you, the whole world is “localized”? Again, how embarrassing for you.
Fortunately there is no rule that you must make sense.
You wrote:
“Your habit of relating your personal, localized experiences as universal proof makes it difficult to discern when you suddenly leap to the World.”
Reggie, there is nothing more universal than the WHOLE WORLD when it comes to vocations. I said vocations were up. They are. You then linked to a page that said EXACTLY THAT while denying they were up in the US. I never said anything about vocations in ONLY the US. My parish priest is from India. At my old parish the priest was from France. I had a chaplain from Poland. This was all in the USA.
“For example:”All those diocese which have good bishops who insist on orthodox teaching have seen their vocations to the priesthood go up in recent years. It has happened in my diocese.”
Again, good bishops and good diocese exist in EVERY NATION which has Catholic bishops and diocese - and they’re doing better and better in vocations compared to just a few years ago.
“Really? All of them?”
Most yes. And that means vocations are UP. Which is EACTLY what I said and EXACTLY what your linked page proved.
“Catholic Population:1990 = 928.5m 1995 = 989.4m2000 = 1.045b2005 - 1.115b Do the math and tell me the ratio of Graduate Seminarians to the Catholic Population is increasing.”
Reggie, saying I said ANYTHING about that “ratio” is simply not true on your part. I said vocations are UP. They are UP. That is IRREFUTABLE. To now claim I said something or meant something about the “ratio of Graduate Seminarians to the Catholic Population...increasing” is completely wrong.
“In fact show one single figure where the Ordained Priesthood shows an increase.”
I said vocations are UP. They are UP and your owm linked statistics prove that. Why do you have to try to distort what I said? I was right. You were wrong. And that is the way it will stay. You can now try to distort my words, but you will fail utterly. I said vocations are UP. I was right and your own linked to stats prove it.
“Play all the games you wish. The fact is the worldwide supply of Priests is diminishing.”
I said vocations are UP. I was right all along and you were wrong all along. You can now try all you want to distort that fact, but it won’t work.
“Fortunately there is no rule that you must make sense.”
I not only make sense, I am right. You’re still wrong and probably still very embarrassed as you dig your hole deeper.