Posted on 07/05/2009 7:23:22 PM PDT by LisaAnne
How can something so pervasively shredded that it’s like a sieve . . .
serve any longer to ratify anything?
How can something that is only a shell of its former self be bypassed?
The oligarchy began shredding the Constitution at least a 100 years ago and has succeeded greatly in increasing stages and degrees for the last 10 decades.
The Senate leadership has been under the heavy Gestapo boot of the Oligarchy for decades.
I’m skeptical that there’s a true patriot left anywhere in the Senate. And certainly there are none left in the leadership and haven’t been for a long time.
Byrd Bane
is a globalist from waaaaayyyyy back.
He won’t disappoint his puppet masters at this point in his questionable health.
Keep in mind that
‘outted’
is NOT the same thing as being abandoned.
It is STILL their plan.
They WILL STILL do exactly that whenever it suits them.
And that was their nicer
. . . treatment of it.
OThuga . . . as many Presidents of the past . . .
will achieve whatever thuggary and tyranny he can get away with.
The law . . . is whatever the oligarchy decides it is and makes effectively stick . . . as they have been demonstrating for decades.
HIDEOUS.
. . . given the list of tyrannical traitorous hideous-ies . . . one hardly knows where to begin . . .
as an ‘excuse’ for sack cloth and ashes.
You have a weird way of acting the conservative while lacking the fortitude of real convictions.
You are the classic waffle.
And I hope it doesn’t take a serious personal violation of you or your family by this administration to get you to
drop the intellectualizing.
You are the philosopher I went to school with that I knew had no future. I’ve since found that people like you have found your gutless place on blogs as well as in government.
I’m ta bed so if you want to dance some more, you dance alone.
Well, there are a lot of conservatives and GOP-ers that have a big legitimate beef with the Marxist and on many counts.
But, I just don’t think it pays to “make a case” out of something that *any President* can do... and have done in the past. There’s a mentality that exists that says, “If Obama is doing it, it’s automatically wrong and has to be opposed!”
However, the problem is, we see that Bush used some of the same methodology and procedures. And in fact, in terms of this particular issue of a “treaty obligation” it turns out that prior presidents have actually *signed treaties* without them being ratified by the Senate (they may have been ratified later, though...).
I believe there is one treaty right now (can’t remember which one, though, unfortunately) that a President signed, but is *still waiting* to be ratified by the Senate (most probably won’t be).
This issue is *not* something new — and neither is it an illegal activity either.
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BUT, the next question that comes up after that consideration — is — whether we should continue Reagan’s START treaty or not. And that’s quite another issue. I seem to think that we should, as I think Reagan had the right idea on it. But, my guess is that if Obama were to work for the continuation of Reagan’s START treaty, that many here would be against it, simply on the basis of Obama being the one doing it. If Bush did it, then many here would be for the *very same thing* — just on the basis of Bush doing it.
I’m saying that one has to look at the details of this situation and oppose things based on those details. And in this case, there’s not a big deal, that I can see — in those details...
That’s my take on the whole thing, in this case...
BUT, then again — another habit that some FReepers have is that if one does not oppose every last single thing that Obama does, then they are an Obama supporter. Now, I call that idea crazy... LOL...
Anyone that I would radically oppose (of which Obama is in that group), I find that rarely will you *ever* find that this includes 100% of what they do. There just doesn’t exist a person on this earth, that I think you can find that you oppose 100% of everything that they do. So, I reserve, even for the most radically opposite of me, at least 10% that I figure will fall into agreement with me, just as a matter of my understanding of how these things work...
Well, the difference is that I live in a real world of real people around me and not in an imaginary world... :-)
Thanks Jet Jaguar
This guy is too funny.
Actually,
I could oppose some folks walking down the street unyelled at.
You make some good points.
In terms of the START treaty. I don’t think it had anything to do with the Russians.
I believe it was all oligarchy stuff vis a vis ET stuff.
Whether one construes it to be one group of ET’s deluding the world leaders into gearing up to fight a different set of ET’s as a way to scare everyone into the global government . . .
or . . .
a further out scenario of very limited sourcing . . . that the satanic globalist leaders and satanic ET’s have manipulated the humans into gearing up to fight God’s angelic armies coming at Armageddon to do the evil doers in.
Satan has evidently deluded the world leaders into thinking that satan and they and the fallen angels will defeat God Almighty at Armageddon.
Satan knows better . . . but it would be quite a scheme to get more humans into hell with him.
Actually, Star Traveler has a lot of toughness behind the convictions.
ST does tend to take a more comprehensive view of thins vs a tidy little narrow view.
Something that is slightly off the topic but in the same ballpark..., has to do with the kind of nuclear weapons that we have. I understand the U.S. got rid of its neutron bombs, while other countries still have them and are expanding their counts.
Now, this is precisely the kind of nuclear weapon that I think would make “all out nuclear war” preventable and not causing the U.S. to go into launching its big missiles and nukes.
I think we should go back to having battlefield nukes and with them being the neutron bombs, as a way to effectively kill off an entire advancing army with just a few of those nukes and not risk the big missiles flying...
Just a thought on my part...
Israel, by the way, has hundreds of them and they would stop any Arab Army advancing into Jerusalem in quick order by dropping them on them and never even harm the citizens around that army in the surrounding cities.
I actually believe that’s why they are drilling their citizens to take shelter in 180 seconds, so that if they had to, the Israelis could drop those nukes on an advancing army and completely destroy it, without touching their own Israeli infrastructure...
You said — Satan has evidently deluded the world leaders into thinking that satan and they and the fallen angels will defeat God Almighty at Armageddon.
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Now, that one... (that you just stated) is one thing that I find astounding actually. I mean, I read in the Bible that Jesus, the Messiah of Israel (who is also said in the Bible to be the upholder of all of creation, and also the Creator of all that was made) — is coming back to earth — and then the armies at Armageddon see this and they turn to fight His return.
At that point, when I read that, I’m saying “How stupid can they be?!” LOL...
How does one fight the Creator of the Universe and win? :-)
Interesting points.
Thx.
Of course!
GOD ALMIGHTY IS GOD . . . ALMIGHTY.
There is none beside Him.
There is none like Him.
However, the father of lies has evidently found . . . a lie . . . so big . . .
as Hitler asserted . . . the bigger the lie, the easier to sell it . . .
that he is seducing quite an array of the elites into hell with him.
They smugly think they are joining forces with a to-be-successful
particular group of
other worlds’ citizens against “just another” group of “ET’s” and their leader [i.e. ALMIGHTY GOD.]
They are in for a huge surprise.
God has warned that He WILL have the lot of them in derision.
God ALWAYS has the last laugh.
BLESSED BE THE NAME OF THE LORD, THE WORD OF THE LORD, THE WAYS OF THE LORD.
There are at least three — Inhofe, Coburn, and DeMint — am sure there are more as there about 17 that always vote together. They are not in leadership.
Would have been so different if Lott had not doublecrossed Senator Nichols from OK for Majority Leader. Nichols was a conservative, straight shooter and honest. Couldn’t have that as the leader. In fact, Nichols was the #2 in the Senate and Lott wouldn’t take him to budget negotiations with Clinton. Then some on here wondered why I detested Lott and still do.
Maybe Star Traveler has some wisdom. It is wise not to be naive and also wise not to be a know it all
Ecclesiastes 7:13-18 (Contemporary English Version) Think of what God has done! If God makes something crooked, can you make it straight? When times are good, you should be cheerful; when times are bad, think what it means. God makes them both to keep us from knowing what will happen next. Some of Life's Questions I have seen everything during this senseless life of mine. I have seen good citizens die for doing the right thing, and I have seen criminals live to a ripe old age. SO don't destroy yourself by being too good or acting too smart! Don't die before your time by being too evil or acting like a fool. Keep to the middle of the road. You can do this if you truly respect God.
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