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US-Russian Arms Negotiators "Under the Gun," Might Temporarily Bypass Senate Ratification for Treaty
abcnew.com ^ | July 5, 2009 | Jake Tapper

Posted on 07/05/2009 7:23:22 PM PDT by LisaAnne

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Oh gosh, why doesn't Obama just declare himself emperor and be done with it. How can the Constitution be "temporarily" bypassed
1 posted on 07/05/2009 7:23:23 PM PDT by LisaAnne
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To: LisaAnne
Not to worry — I'm sure Congress will begin a prompt and impeachment and conviction.

/s

2 posted on 07/05/2009 7:25:46 PM PDT by BenLurkin ("A new Dark Ages made all the more terrible and prolonged by the sinister powers of science.")
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To: LisaAnne

?????????????


3 posted on 07/05/2009 7:26:48 PM PDT by catfish1957 (Hey algore...You'll have to pry the steering wheel of my 317 HP V8 truck from my cold dead hands)
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To: LisaAnne

You cannot ‘temporary’ bypass the Constitution and it is time some of the GOP Senate leadership got a backbone and called him on it or oust McConnell as the leader since he doesn’t seem to be a very forceful spokesman. I would name Sen DeMint or Jim Inhofe to lead the Senate and maybe then we could see some fireworks and backbone.


4 posted on 07/05/2009 7:27:07 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Coburn/Rubio - Senate 2010 ! Sarah for President 2012)
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To: LisaAnne

Yep so much for that nuclear deterrent thing. This has become the freaking Twilight Zone.


5 posted on 07/05/2009 7:28:18 PM PDT by catfish1957 (Hey algore...You'll have to pry the steering wheel of my 317 HP V8 truck from my cold dead hands)
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To: LisaAnne

Un.

Frickking.

Believable.

Yes, and ABC wants its readers to think “Oh my gosh...we have to do something! This is an emergency...of course Obama should do something...”

LET THE EFFING THING EXPIRE!

WHY is it that throughout our history as a country, we have somehow been able to observe the Constitution, take months to formulate, debate and pass important legislation and even have that legislation available for lawmakers to READ?

WHY is it that all of a sudden we cannot? WHY?


6 posted on 07/05/2009 7:28:18 PM PDT by rlmorel ("The Road to Serfdom" by F.A.Hayek - Read it...today.)
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To: LisaAnne

You said it...I just want to know where our “Jedi Knights” are.

Did we ever have any?


7 posted on 07/05/2009 7:30:25 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: BenLurkin

I note your tagline, because I am often reminded of it nowadays.

I think we should remove the traitorous scumbag from office simply for insulting the British by sending that bust back.

I swear, that traitorous asshat is deliberately trying to push the country to the edge, almost to see if he can incite a revolt.


8 posted on 07/05/2009 7:31:08 PM PDT by rlmorel ("The Road to Serfdom" by F.A.Hayek - Read it...today.)
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To: LisaAnne

I suppose as long as it is within the scope of his authority as C-in-C he can undertake certain acts pursuant to an agreement with the Russians, but any agreement he makes would not be binding on future administrations as a treaty would be.

As a matter of policy the U.S. observed the Geneva Convention during World War II, although the Senate had not ratified the treaty.


9 posted on 07/05/2009 7:31:33 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (AGWT is very robust with respect to data. All observations confirm it at the 100% confidence level.)
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To: LisaAnne

I’m wondering if Robert Byrd would oppose this. Whatever else he is, he has always been a champion of the role of the Senate.

Perhaps he is fearful of angering our very own Emperor Nero, however.


10 posted on 07/05/2009 7:34:55 PM PDT by DemforBush (Somebody wake me when sanity has returned to the nation.)
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To: LisaAnne

world leaders know BO is just grandstanding in his quest to become the new Ghandi-Jesus-Kennedy-FDR-Gorby-Marx.......they will never let him do it. BO is destined to be spit upon, lied to, and ignored.........


11 posted on 07/05/2009 7:36:09 PM PDT by sfvgto (Dear Congress, my name is Jimmie....gimmie, gimmie, gimmie)
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You cannot ‘temporary’ bypass the Constitution

Sure you can--martial law. Of course this current course of events will lead to the same result; it'll just look better on the news this way.

12 posted on 07/05/2009 7:36:24 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater ("Get out of the boat and walk on the water with us!”--Sen. Joe Biden)
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Looks like a lot of us are on the same page. I still think the Homeland Security document that basically called all of us domestic terrorists was to start the wheels turning for martial law but thanks to someone it was outed.


13 posted on 07/05/2009 7:38:43 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Coburn/Rubio - Senate 2010 ! Sarah for President 2012)
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To: LisaAnne

Ask GWB, who was quite fond of such things.


14 posted on 07/05/2009 7:40:59 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: LisaAnne

Just the normal MO of these Usurpers.

Emergency means solution needed NOW. Ink the deal and deal with the fallout later. Or, if you want to give the illusion of Constitutionality, dump a 1,000 page Bill on the Legislative Branch the night before the vote.


15 posted on 07/05/2009 7:44:28 PM PDT by TCats
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16 posted on 07/05/2009 7:46:28 PM PDT by SlowBoat407 (Achtung. preparen zie fur die obamahopenchangen.)
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To: PhiKapMom

Why not bypass the Constitution? Congress and 0 have already peed on it.


17 posted on 07/05/2009 7:48:26 PM PDT by pankot
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To: LisaAnne

Indeed - he already has horses’ asses as senators...


18 posted on 07/05/2009 7:50:38 PM PDT by alecqss
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To: LisaAnne

This sort of thing is entirely possible within any administration. All it means is that certain things will be done by order of the President and within the power of that office.

So what it’s saying is that we’ll abide by a treaty — in the interim (i.e., before the expiration date and through the time that it takes the Senate to approve such a treaty).

Now, whatever the President does himself is *not* a treaty, but just Presidential action. And thus, it does not last beyond his administration. So, if this doesn’t get ratified, it simply is not a treaty and it will not be abided by, with any future administration. But, if it is ratified by the Senate, then future Presidents will abide by it.

This is not binding the U.S. to any sort of a treaty, as the President cannot do that on his own.


19 posted on 07/05/2009 7:55:12 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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This would constitute high crimes and treason, which he could be impeached for.

Of course that is if we had a House of Representatives that wasnt in his back pocket./


20 posted on 07/05/2009 7:56:23 PM PDT by Venturer
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