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To: Jackson57
Go back to Kos, dope.

Do you really think I was trying to pull a seniority issue on you? The point was, he's been her for over ten years. The comment above was uncalled for.

I'm going to tell you right now, I like Palin. I still think what she did on Friday was ill advised and self-defeating. That being the case, I'm going to tell others on the forum how I see it. And part of that is based on the reality that IMO a large spectrum of Independents and Democrats are going to see this resignation differently than we do.

Why is this important? It's important, because in 2012, Palin needs to get as many of their votes as she can, because every Conservative vote in the nation, will not win her the office of the Presidency.

Your post is a perfect example of what Beckett is talking about, saying some of the posts here right now resemble those on DU. (I didn't see him say it, I'm taking your word for it) You think that everyone who doesn't join you in circling the wagons is a D.U. plant. No, some of us just realize how this is going to affect her chances at being elected President, and we're not happy about it.

204 posted on 07/05/2009 1:52:37 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (_Resident of the United States and Kenya's favorite son, Baraaaack Hussein Obamaaaa...)
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To: DoughtyOne

“... a large spectrum of Independents and Democrats are going to see this resignation differently than we do”

Did they see it differently for Obama or H. Clinton?


209 posted on 07/05/2009 1:55:52 PM PDT by Jackson57
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To: DoughtyOne
I still think what she did on Friday was ill advised and self-defeating.

Depends on what your 'goal' is.

210 posted on 07/05/2009 1:56:34 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: DoughtyOne

By the way, I notice you didn’t call beckett down for referring to Palin as a “pinhead woman”.


212 posted on 07/05/2009 1:57:06 PM PDT by Jackson57
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To: DoughtyOne; Jackson57; beckett

“It’s just impossible to stomach the stupidity on this site anymore. After all these years of posting here, I think it’s time to find another place.

What kind of dopes cannot see that this pinhead woman, who when speaking off the cuff makes George Bush sound brilliant, just abandoned a post she was SWORN to fill, and that she did so for the flimsiest of reasons. AT BEST, she dumped Alaska on her Lt. Gov. because she wants to make money on a book and feel out her chances for national office. That’s the height of irresponsibility and self-centeredness — SHE HAD AN OATH TO UPHOLD.

Conservatives who shrug and say so what to that kind of irresponsibility are not conservatives I recognize. Can anyone imagine Ronald Reagan breaking a solemn oath?

Sarih Palin has never had a shot at the WH. She’s much too unqualified and serious people can see it whenever she opens her mouth without a script. But now it seems she’s about to lead the “true believers” at FR and other outposts of the right further into the wilderness, too, and completely marginalize conservative thought at a time when Obama is socializing the nation.

Great work Sarah.”

77 posted on Sunday, July 05, 2009 3:57:02 PM by beckett (Amor Fati)
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Do you agree with this kind of response?


214 posted on 07/05/2009 1:59:48 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: DoughtyOne; Jackson57
You think that everyone who doesn't join you in circling the wagons is a D.U. plant.

Gets to where you can't even have a decent argument anymore, without being called a troll.

217 posted on 07/05/2009 2:01:35 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: DoughtyOne
No, some of us just realize how this is going to affect her chances at being elected President, and we're not happy about it.
While I disagree with you on this one, D1 -- I certainly have to admire your PATIENCE!
There is no use making enemies in this current battle unnecessarily -- since it will be a LONG war.
Perhaps circumstances will evolve in the future that will allow you change your mind about Sarah's BOLD, if risky move.

I'll bet that Sarah is a fan of General Patton:

"A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week."

219 posted on 07/05/2009 2:04:22 PM PDT by RonDog
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To: DoughtyOne
I still think what she did on Friday was ill advised and self-defeating.

I agree somewhat, IF she was planning to run for higher office in the next 5 years. But I don't think she has plans for that. Judging from her announcement, she believes she cannot give her undivided attention to governing because she is continually fighting off ethics charges. That is a disservice to her and to her constituents.

She did not say she was going to quit public life and the promotion of conservatives issues altogether. She said she was going in a new direction.

The new direction could be writing a book, doing a talk show, issue advocacy speeches and supporting candidates. Lots of choices besides holding elected office. That's where I believe she is heading. Maybe she doesn't even know for sure what the future holds and is still mulling options and that's why she was cryptic.

It's tough being a middle of the roader around here where Palin is concerned. I like her very much and think she can be very effective in promoting conservatives issues and candidates. But I don't see her running for President any time soon, if ever. And that's okay. She can assist in making the roads straight and the rough places plain for conservative candidates.

We have to be careful to not project on Palin the equivalent of blind worship that the liberals project onto Obama. She's not "The One" any more than Obama is.

310 posted on 07/05/2009 3:01:56 PM PDT by randita
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To: DoughtyOne
I'm going to tell you right now, I like Palin. I still think what she did on Friday was ill advised and self-defeating. That being the case, I'm going to tell others on the forum how I see it. And part of that is based on the reality that IMO a large spectrum of Independents and Democrats are going to see this resignation differently than we do.

IMHO I don't believe anyone is going to look at Palin's resignation and form a negative opinion of it based on personal experience. That's an open book; a blank page the Marketing firm of Main, Stream and Media are desparate to write and yes it will all be negative.

However, I question an approach of cowaring to powerful anit-conservative media outlets due to sticks and stones and thereby allow them to prevent key opposition steps toward political victory.

There needs to be an immediate reaction to the statist march. I see Palin's resignation as nothing but positive for the movement.

E01

321 posted on 07/05/2009 3:10:55 PM PDT by Eddie01 (I'd run for congress if I wasn't afraid my family would be destroyed.)
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