NO ONE CARES ABOUT TEA PARTIES, UNLESS YOU MAKE A STATEMENT

Self | 7/4/09 | A Navy Vet

[RicocheT]

We have Tea Parties as we conservatives are still trying to educate other American citizens to the fact our democracy and economy are endangered by the present control of our government by socialist, statist big government liberals. We have to open the eyes of others who have been befuddled by the Oprah TV and main stream media lies.

We know if education doesn’t bring a majority to our side, we may need to take active steps to bringing about another American Revolution to reinstate the America established in 1776 and under our original Constitution. For now, the
Tea Parties are going to be nice and informative.

[Mister Da]

I see a lot of folks here that think that revolution is the only solution, & one that will only happen out of desperation at a time when even the most honest citizens will resort to violence.

That is likely a long time coming, if ever. By that time our country may be beyond redemption.

I believe there is a better tactic. One that can be implemented now, & it is perfectly legal.

Close your businesses, & for employees, go on strike. Minimize your purchases. Convert your investments to gold or other precious metals. Stop volunteerism.

With all this extra time, write lots of letters to the politicians, state & fed. Organize, & attend both Rat & Pub meetings & let your opinion be heard.

A few months of this will bring this country, the world, & especially our “leaders” to their knees. Let them see what results when the heartbeat of this country stops beating.

Do we really want to wait until we resemble Iran or Zimbabwe - politically & economically - before we are willing to act?

[SVTCobra03]

There is a saying that if you get so mad that you can’t take it anymore then you grab your weapon and step outside your front door. You look around and if you are the only one then it’s not time yet. It’s not time yet.

[dalebert]

i cand find one for 74728

[dalebert]

can’t find tea party for 74728....state secret?

[REPANDPROUDOFIT]

Hi napsoordinator (always loved that name). Good to “see” you again. You and I seem to follow a lot of the same threads.

[napscoordinator]

Good to see you too. Happy Independence Day!!! We are just two smart people when it comes to picking threads!!!

[EBH]

I see a lot of folks here that think that revolution is the only solution, & one that will only happen out of desperation at a time when even the most honest citizens will resort to violence.

The Washington heart is hardened against the American people. As Thomas Paine spoke of the obstinacy of the King, we might as well speak of the same. The matter of which so many peace-loving patriots seem to place in denial is even if their removal from office comes to happen in 2010, we should not flatter ourselves that these matters are even settled or the people is reconciled.

I think it is only dangerous dreaming to think they will not try again, even more forcefully. This quarrel will not be resolved at the elections for the attacks are directly against our form of government and they will continue.

And if you think my words are a bit too bold...they are very similar to those of the man I referenced.

[REPANDPROUDOFIT]

Happy Fourth to you too. Our bbq hasn’t begun yet - waiting till 5. Mmmmmm! Steaks and homemade wine coolers by the pool.

[Ready2go]

Read this:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2281436/posts

[A Navy Vet]

"I disagree that we could be more effective by being "illegal"."

Oh please, it's a simple misdemeanor. You simply refuse to disperse and when the LEO's move in to force you, simply get up and surrender and spend a few hours in jail...all the while chanting about the Constitution. It has worked for the liberals for decades. And if you're worried about getting fingerprinted, don't. If you have a SSN, the Fedgov can find you anytime. But, by all means, carry your signs and be ignored again by the MSM.

"The simple truth is, it takes media coverage for any kind of demonstration to be effective and we don't have it."

Thank you for making my point.

[A Navy Vet]

"Imagine if George Washington had the same can't do attitude just prior to crossing the ice laden Delaware River in to march miles in the winter to attack a crack military unit of German Hessians. We wouldn't be here today celebrating our independence."

Guess you missed the history lesson in class that spoke of the Colonies peacefully and lawfully petitioning King George for redress. That worked out so well that George Washington had to eventually lead an armed revolt.

Bad analogy. But you make my point well. Carry your signs, and then go home. It will be for naught, unless you take it to the next level (non-violent). It is your RIGHT and DUTY to fight against the totalitarian movement.

With due respect, you really don't get it. The MSM will ignore these demonstrations as they did the April 15th protests. Did those efforts help to slow down the growing Fedgov leviathan? Not an inch. See Cap&Trade. Next up, your health care. But keep getting together and preaching to the choir and carrying those signs.

"WHEN IN THE COURSE OF HUMAN EVENTS...".

[Man50D]

Guess you missed the history lesson in class that spoke of the Colonies peacefully and lawfully petitioning King George for redress. That worked out so well that George Washington had to eventually lead an armed revolt.

You completely misinterpret my point. People need to employ all avenues of preventing socialists from taking over the country. Any of the suggestions to bring pressure on politicians have been shot down by some Freepers. We would end up doing nothing if we heeded the naysayers advice. My George Washington on the Delaware River analogy clearly had more to do with a proactive approach in general using all methods. I would have chosen an example involving a more peaceful event if I were advocating only that type of approach.

With due respect, you really don't get it. The MSM will ignore these demonstrations as they did the April 15th protests

You don't get it. I couldn't give a d*mn about the media. The tea parties go beyond people simply vetting their frustration and trying to grab attention. It is a means to network, exchange ideas and advance causes to reverse the socialist trend. I've experienced it first hand at everyone I've attended. Socialism didn't happen overnight it we won't end it overnight. Repeatedly meeting will only strengthen people's resolve to stand up and fight against socialists and for the Constitution. No one method is the answer but collectively they will make a difference.

Belittling any method is easy and only serves to advance the cause of those we oppose. You don't like it, fine, but telling people how stupid and irrelevant they are for doing something you oppose doesn't serve your purpose since it is the same tactic socialists use to discourage their opposition. You need to stop treating people who seek the same end result as you as if they are the enemy.

[A Navy Vet]

Look, let's get something clear. I respect those who get off the couch and at least try. Like I said, I've done that, and way before most on this board even thought of it.

I'm saying that your efforts will be for naught, if the MSM gives such gatherings the same lack of coverage they gave on April 15th.

I sincerely mean you nor anyone who tries any disrespect, truly. I'm just telling you that networking and preaching to the choir is not going to get the job done. If you want the attention of the MSM (smarmy jokes included), such efforts need to be taken to the next level of redress.

There really is NO such thing as bad publicity. If enough conservatives were dedicated enough to a sit-in while chanting, "THE CONSTITUTION LIVES" or other slogan, than maybe Joe-six-pack-Soccor-mom may question why people like themselves are making such a small sacrifice. Fair?

Happy Independence Day. I wish you and your family a long, prosperous, and free life.

[A Navy Vet]

"Wait, ANV, until Americans have reached the point of having little or nothing left to lose. Then: Viva la Revolucion! Patience."

I don't want a (violent) Revolution. I don't wish that on my Country. I am simply saying let's do what has worked for the liberals through the decades. Take their Marxist/Alinsky protocols and turn it against them.

[A Navy Vet]

"I have not heard one single word about tea parties at all except for here. I even think that Fox News is ignoring them. I know they have important MJ and Sarah news but a two second report would not hurt."

I'm sure some media outlet (most likely local papers) will have a blurb or two tomorrow, but that's all it will amount to. Everyone will go home feeling good that they contributed. Good for them for getting off their ass, but it will amount to nothing unless they take it to a new level of redress. Mark my words and this post.

[A Navy Vet]

"The demonstrations and tea parties aren't useless, they're good morale builders, get the circulation going. It's human nature, people need pep talks to get worked up to do big things, to leap to that next level. But civil disobedience is what needs to ensue at that next level. The situation in America is dire."

"Morale builder", yes, I would agree with that. But it won't get the job done. Glad you understand what I'm saying. Someone above you said sit-ins were useless. I didn't reply because those very massive civil disobedient sit-ins helped kill our Troops in Viet Nam, just when Nam was getting ready to concede.

Although the libs of the time also got violent (not advocating), their massive marches and sit-ins changed the course of history. That is a fact of history.

[savedbygrace]

I don’t that either, but it’s coming regardless.

I expressed my opinion as to why the Alinsky tactics won’t work for us. Those tactics are intended for societal breakdown and eventual destruction.

[El Gato]

No one is willing to sacrifice a misdemeanor night in jail, like the socialists have done for decades, with much success.

They have, and for the most part always have had, the support of the MSM. They get sympathetic stories, we'd get "Good Riddance!".

Besides, its just not our way. We do not break the law, unless the law itself violates a higher law.

And we do have that higher law, the Constitution, on our side. We should not occupy the low ground of petty civil disobedience, for that would have us give up the high ground we already hold.

[El Gato]

I am a veteran of the 70s anti-war demonstrations (used to be a big Berkeley lib - mea culpa) and they certainly had an effect in endinglosing the war, I think.

Not to mention having a hand in the creation of the "re-education camps" and the "Killing fields" of Cambodia. Have you met and spoken with any Vietnamese boat people. I have. Heck I was embarrassed to admit that I was still in college, albeit in the evil ROTC, when y'all "had an effect", and that by the time I went on active duty, US involvement was all but over.