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Sarah Palin, New Party ?????
vanity | 07/03/2008 | taildragger

Posted on 07/03/2009 6:40:30 PM PDT by taildragger

Like many here, I am a political prognosticator. I followed Sarah Palin here for almost 2 years and told friends last May if McCain only chance is to pick Palin. So what does Sarah Palin's latest move mean?


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KEYWORDS: 2012; fedindictmentcoming; gopimplosion; independent; palin; parties; quitter; sarahbarraquitta
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To: taildragger

Such action would do nothing but give Obama a 2nd term. The word that comes to mind is “LOGIC”. Sheeze


81 posted on 07/03/2009 7:28:46 PM PDT by Paige ("All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing," Edmund Burke)
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To: Perdogg

>>> unfortunately, as I posted the day after the election, there has only been one person who lost in the election for Vice President only to be elected President in the last century, that was FDR. <<<<

That’s interesting.

And unconvincing, even to this Palin sceptic.

Sounds like the kind of factoid a Beltway talking head would be touting.


82 posted on 07/03/2009 7:29:03 PM PDT by angkor
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To: counterpunch
Losing by 10 million votes, 7+ points, and more electoral votes than they carried proves you were wrong about her being McCain’s best shot.

Without Palin, McCain would have made Goldwater look like a BIG winner. McCain and the Republicans saved themselves from the biggest defeat in modern times by putting Palin on the ticket.

83 posted on 07/03/2009 7:29:04 PM PDT by penowa
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To: ChrisInAR
The way it turned out the Democrats began using "NeoCon" as an euphemism for "Jew".

That's why WE don't use the term. Only Democrats use the term.

84 posted on 07/03/2009 7:29:41 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Paige
So you don't see all the pissed off Conservatives that have told the GOP to pound sand and are either Galting or are in a I don't give a $&!t mode or are doing tea parties or are paralized in fear of the Bamster and his Gangsta's?

I see it and one common thread, they are SICK of the GOP.

85 posted on 07/03/2009 7:32:02 PM PDT by taildragger (Palin / Mulally 2012)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

“Secret project, I have not heard anything about this, when did he talk about this project, and maybe Sarah is involved in this project”

Give her a talk radio show to get her message out and watch the left libs head’s explode! Wouldn’t that be great. In fact give her a FOX TV show as well.


86 posted on 07/03/2009 7:32:12 PM PDT by Batman11 (Chicago, Land of Lincoln who freed the slaves and Land of Obama who enslaved the free.)
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To: 4rcane

“’I love to see her join the Libertarian party’”


That is unlikely considering.

Here is the leftists agenda hidden behind the Libertarian Party curtain.

Libertarian Party Platform:

Throw open the borders completely; only a rare individual (terrorist, disease carrier etc.) can be kept from freedom of movement through “political boundaries”.

Homosexuals; total freedom in the military, gay marriage, adoption, child custody and everything else.

Abortion; zero restrictions or impediments.

Pornography; no restraint, no restrictions.

Drugs; Meth, Heroin, Crack, and anything new that science can come up with, zero restrictions.

Advertising those drugs, prostitution, and pornography; zero restrictions.

Military Strength; minimal capabilities.


87 posted on 07/03/2009 7:33:22 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: counterpunch

Wrong. When Idiot McCain halted campaigning, running back to Washington to support the bailout bill, the campaign nosedived. Had he gone back to put a halt to that travesty instead of supporting it, he just may have won. Sarah Palin did give him a huge boost but McCain squandered it.


88 posted on 07/03/2009 7:35:07 PM PDT by upsdriver
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To: Darren McCarty
Third parties never worked. Americans have always had single member districts, and the Supreme Court has ruled consistent with that model in every case that touched on the issue.

We also use First Past The Post voting. That is, the guy with the most votes wins.

Both factors create a situation where parties can exist at only two nodes. Currently that tends to be a Republican, or a Democrat node.

There aren't even variations at the state level.

A new party must be successful the first time out. The way you do that is the way the Republicans did it when they took over from the Whigs. Basically a bunch of Whig politicians became Republicans. What we need is for a bunch of Republican politicians to become whatever we want to call the new party.

There must be enough "conversions" or "rebrandings" to leae the residual Republican rump party unable to run candidates!

89 posted on 07/03/2009 7:35:44 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Perdogg

Right.
And FDR did not run against the President he had lost to just 4 years earlier.
FDR’s election was no rematch. Just as Nixon’s second run wasn’t a rematch either. Both Nixon and FDR waited at least 8 years and for a totally different ticket to run against.

But Dewey, Stevenson, and Mondale all ran in rematches of one form or another, and all lost. And by bigger margins the second time around.

Running one of your losing candidates against the ticket they already lost to 4 years ago amounts to political surrender for a party.


90 posted on 07/03/2009 7:38:35 PM PDT by counterpunch (In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem.)
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To: taildragger

I see 84 maybe 87 people on this thread. There are millions who have no clue this site exists. Why not get out and talk to the people at the meetings and on the streets? Make the calls, contact the people, work the voting registration drives, and then get back in touch with all of us who know a third party will fail.


91 posted on 07/03/2009 7:39:47 PM PDT by Paige ("All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing," Edmund Burke)
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To: penowa

But Palin didn’t bring in more votes than 0bama.
So OK, McCain is a bigger loser than Palin.
But she’s still a loser.

And she would be a loser once again if she ran against 0bama again.
What part of “10 million votes less than 0bama” do you not understand?
So what if it would have been 12 million votes less without her?
It’s still 10 MILLION VOTES SHORT.
-10,000,000 isn’t enough to win by even Al Gore’s math.


92 posted on 07/03/2009 7:42:14 PM PDT by counterpunch (In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem.)
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To: taildragger

The failure of the GOP to nominate conservatives ultimately lies with lazy and uninformed Republican primary voters.


93 posted on 07/03/2009 7:43:13 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: counterpunch

Obama obtained 69,456,897 votes. McCain received 59,934,814 votes. That’s roughly a 10 million vote difference. Still, McCain would have won with only 4,761,043
more votes (out of the same total number of votes).


94 posted on 07/03/2009 7:43:30 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: taildragger
I hate to rain on your parade, but I think she is going home to take care of her family. I think she has had enough of the sleaze of US politics.

I doubt she will do much more than write, blog, & give non-confrontational interviews.

Perhaps in time, when the kids are grown, & she is wiser, with thicker skin, she will reemerge into politics. If so, this resignation will come back to haunt her.

Now, can we get a new conservative leader - one who eats leftists for breakfast & licks his fingers in delight? The time for politeness & one-sided fair play is over. Mommy has gone home in disgust!

I like Palin, & I agree with most of her politics, but she is just TOO NICE!

95 posted on 07/03/2009 7:43:45 PM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: counterpunch

go away....just go away....


96 posted on 07/03/2009 7:43:51 PM PDT by The Wizard (DemonRATS: enemies of America)
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To: 4rcane

She will never join libertarians...they are isolationists and she is strong on national defense ...has a son in Iraq...


97 posted on 07/03/2009 7:44:15 PM PDT by JaneNC (I)
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To: Repeal The 17th

No kidding

Third parties are ALWAYS a mistake


98 posted on 07/03/2009 7:44:38 PM PDT by JaneNC (I)
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To: counterpunch

4,761,043 votes, not 10 million. Remember, every additional vote for McCain is one less vote for Obama.


99 posted on 07/03/2009 7:44:43 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: taildragger

Something she said in the speech lead me to believe the same thing.


100 posted on 07/03/2009 7:45:01 PM PDT by WVNan ( (Attack him where he is unprepared, appear where you are not expected.: Sun Tzu))
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