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To: real_patriotic_american
When press secretary Gibbs responded at the news briefing a few weeks ago with "It's on the internet" to the Obama birth certificate question, I couldn't help but laugh a little.

1. I couldn't help laughing because Gibbs seemed to be saying that if something---say, a document like a birth certificate---was posted on the internet, it must be factual, true, and honest.

2. Of course, we all know---and I'm sure that Gibbs knows too--that if something is posted on the internet, the first thing we need to do is to look at it with the greatest caution and distrust.

For instance, we have all heard horror stories of people who have bought items on the internet and who have found out later the item that was advertised on the internet was not the item that they actually bought.

3. How about this: Let's say that the President of the highly-respected University Notre Dame posted the following statement on his website: "I have a copy of Obama's long form birth certificate for everyone to see, but I can't let anyone see it or touch it in person."

4. I love Notre Dame University football, but my response would be: " Sorry, President of Notre Dame, but if you can't let the public see it and touch it, I don't believe that you really have Obama's long form birth certificate."

5. Press Secretary Gibbs says "It's on the internet". But which Obama birth certificate is actually on the internet? It certainly isn't the 1961 birth certificate, the year Obama claims he was born in Hawaii.

6. Fact: The Obama birth certificate on the "internet" is stamped "2007" on the back and not 1961, the year Obama claims is the year of his birth.

7. My followup question to Gibbs would have been: You are correct. It is on the internet. But why does Obama end up displaying an obvious 2007 Hawaii birth certificate? Why doesn't Obama display a birth certificate with a much earlier date, say, for example one with the stamp date of August 1961, the year Obama claims that he was born in Hawaii.

I'm sorry, but I think we the public have every right to ask President Obama this question: Did you order a new birth certificate in June 2007 because you lost your 1961, original birth certificate?

8. "Oh, yes. Mr. Gibbs. If you are so naive to believe that everything on the internet is true and should be trusted absolutely, I have some oceanfront property in Nevada that I am selling on the internet. Please check it out."

41 posted on 06/30/2009 1:13:45 PM PDT by john mirse
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To: john mirse

Great list. Ping for my later-look file!


44 posted on 06/30/2009 1:24:00 PM PDT by rarestia ("One man with a gun can control 100 without one." - Lenin / MOLWN LABE!)
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To: john mirse
Hey, wait. Are you also saying that I shouldn't believe that the Ark of the Covenant About to Be Unveiled ?

I was hoping that it was going to happen because I was so let down when Africa Press International ran into legal trouble and couldn't release the Michelle Obambi "whitey tapes".


51 posted on 06/30/2009 1:35:41 PM PDT by philled (A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul.-- GB Shaw)
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To: john mirse

For many purposes, an abstract of the birth information that was registered with a county will suffice to prove your identity, and the Certification of Live Birth, with limited information on it, is what you get in Hawaii unless you ask for the whole record. That COLB will be dated when it is generated, when you ask for it, so any year could appear on the form.

The full record of birth, with doctor’s names and witness, would be recorded for the county in a book or on a form. A copy of that is what BHO should show us. But he’s above such trivial matters, don’t ya know.


54 posted on 06/30/2009 1:44:03 PM PDT by Tellurian (Perception is interesting. Truth is overwhelming.)
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To: john mirse

Very well put John. Have you seen this article by Dr. Polarik:

Excerpt from Dr. Polarik’s article (full article below):

“Why won’t you show us your real birth certificate?” Press Secretary Gibbs response was startling. He said that the Obama Administration had put a copy of it, one with a raised Seal, on the Internet. That response, more than any other mentioned to date, should have gotten people to their feet shouting, “NO, it’s NOT a real birth certificate!” Or, at least, it’s not the long-form original.

In effect, Obama, by way of his Press Secretary, just admitted to committing felony document fraud as what is posted on the Internet is a forgery, a false government identification document in violation of Federal statutes.”

Article by Polarik:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2280617/posts
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Re: “When press secretary Gibbs responded at the news briefing a few weeks ago with “It’s on the internet” to the Obama birth certificate question, I couldn’t help but laugh a little.
1. I couldn’t help laughing because Gibbs seemed to be saying that if something-—say, a document like a birth certificate-—was posted on the internet, it must be factual, true, and honest.

2. Of course, we all know-—and I’m sure that Gibbs knows too—that if something is posted on the internet, the first thing we need to do is to look at it with the greatest caution and distrust.

For instance, we have all heard horror stories of people who have bought items on the internet and who have found out later the item that was advertised on the internet was not the item that they actually bought.

3. How about this: Let’s say that the President of the highly-respected University Notre Dame posted the following statement on his website: “I have a copy of Obama’s long form birth certificate for everyone to see, but I can’t let anyone see it or touch it in person.”

4. I love Notre Dame University football, but my response would be: “ Sorry, President of Notre Dame, but if you can’t let the public see it and touch it, I don’t believe that you really have Obama’s long form birth certificate.”

5. Press Secretary Gibbs says “It’s on the internet”. But which Obama birth certificate is actually on the internet? It certainly isn’t the 1961 birth certificate, the year Obama claims he was born in Hawaii.

6. Fact: The Obama birth certificate on the “internet” is stamped “2007” on the back and not 1961, the year Obama claims is the year of his birth.

7. My followup question to Gibbs would have been: You are correct. It is on the internet. But why does Obama end up displaying an obvious 2007 Hawaii birth certificate? Why doesn’t Obama display a birth certificate with a much earlier date, say, for example one with the stamp date of August 1961, the year Obama claims that he was born in Hawaii.

I’m sorry, but I think we the public have every right to ask President Obama this question: Did you order a new birth certificate in June 2007 because you lost your 1961, original birth certificate?

8. “Oh, yes. Mr. Gibbs. If you are so naive to believe that everything on the internet is true and should be trusted absolutely, I have some oceanfront property in Nevada that I am selling on the internet. Please check it out.””


58 posted on 06/30/2009 1:50:15 PM PDT by real_patriotic_american
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To: john mirse

You can’t change the rules after game starts.

Suppose celebrity Republicans Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger, who was born in Austria and singer Gloria Estefan, who was born in Cuba, chose to run for President.
They would be prevented from doing so since per Article 2, Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution, one must be a natural born citizen of the United States to hold office as President. Their births in Austria and Cuba would not be considered natural born citizenship.

A case might be made that Barack Obama knew that he was not eligibile to serve as President since he’s probably not a natural born citizen. Consequently, he forged a “Certification of Live Birth” (COLB) and advertised it to the American people as authentic.

Dr. Ron Polarik analyzed Obama’s COLB and determined it to be a forgery. I firmly agree with him. The enclosed link provides Polarik’s article and displays the alleged forged document while pointing out altered numbers and discrepancies, etc.:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2136816/posts

It is a felony to forge a government document and there could be a multitude of felony counts contained here against Obama.

Dr. Polarik has also indicated that he will update this report.

We the American people have the right to know if our President is eligible to hold office. For many, Obama has not proven this requirement.

Obama, I ask, WHERE were you born in Hawaii? Prove it! Where is your original birth certificate? Where?

The authorities MUST enforce the Constitution and require Obama to prove that he is a natural born American citizen. Action on this case is past due! If the Constitution were not going to be enforced, Schwarzenegger or Estefan could have been on the Republican ticket in 2008. What law permits the Democrats special privileges?
In closing, our past Presidents have Birthplace Museums. Just to name a few, Ronald Reagan has a Birthplace Museum in Tampico, Illinois and Bill Clinton has a Birthplace Museum in Hope, Arkansas where they were born. Where will Barack Obama’s Birthplace Museum be located- at the Coast Provincial General Hospital in Mombasa, Kenya?


70 posted on 07/01/2009 1:23:58 PM PDT by real_patriotic_american
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