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Liberal New Republic Article Actually Makes Sense on Honduras 'Coup'
NewsBusters ^ | June 30, 2009 | P.J. Gladnick

Posted on 06/30/2009 5:50:24 AM PDT by PJ-Comix

The left can try to brush off articles in the Wall Street Journal or the National Review about the "coup" in Honduras as "rightwing propaganda." However, they will have a much harder time applying such a label to an article about the ouster of Honduran president, Manuel Zelaya (in photo with Hugo Chavez), which appeared in the very liberal New Republic.

President Obama and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton should have read Festishizing the Presidency by Francisco Toro before being so quick in joining Chavez in denouncing the removal of Honduran strong man Zelaya who was acting unconstitutionally:

Sunday's coup in Honduras has been portrayed as a throwback to the bad old days when Latin American armies got drafted in as the ultimate umpires of political conflict. But in arresting president Manuel Zelaya in his pajamas and putting him on the first plane out of the country, Honduras's generals were acting out of fear of a genuine and growing threat to Latin Democracy: the looming prospect of unchecked, hyper-empowered executive power held for life by a single, charismatic individual.

Seen in context, Sunday's military powerplay was different in important ways from the traditional Latin American putsch. The generals move came at the unanimous--yes unanimous--behest of a congress outraged by Zelaya's not-particularly-subtle attempts to extend his hold on power indefinitely. It followed a series of clearly unconstitutional moves on Zelaya's part, including his attempt to unilaterally remove the chief of the army, which, according to Honduras's Constitution, can only be done by a congressional super-majority.


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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: honduras; manuelzelaya; obama; zelaya
My big fear is that Obama and Hillary will force Honduras to be ruled by that Chavista thug Zelaya again. However, it is nice to see The New Republic make sense...for a change.
1 posted on 06/30/2009 5:50:24 AM PDT by PJ-Comix
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To: Paul Heinzman; IMissPresidentReagan; AlexW; Cletus.D.Yokel; ConservativeOrBust; tropical; ...

PING!


2 posted on 06/30/2009 5:51:41 AM PDT by PJ-Comix ("They spent a trillion dollars on a guess?" ---Astute DUmmie observation)
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To: PJ-Comix
it is nice to see The New Republic make sense...for a change.

Someone must have opened a window.

3 posted on 06/30/2009 5:53:24 AM PDT by Pan_Yan (Obama is to Nixon what mass murderer is to jaywalking.)
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To: PJ-Comix

No wonder obama wants him returned to power - he sees himself in that same boat shortly.


4 posted on 06/30/2009 5:54:48 AM PDT by CodeMasterPhilzar (I'll keep my money, my guns, and my freedom. You can keep the "change.")
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To: PJ-Comix

The big picture is, Obama sees this as a threat to his own dictatorial aspirations.


5 posted on 06/30/2009 5:55:28 AM PDT by wbones8765 ("Give me liberty or give me death")
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To: PJ-Comix

Was it Franklin that said a lie is halfway around the world before the truth gets out of bed? It seems the truth is finally catching up with the lie that’s been spread. Hope it’s not too late.

I think Zelaya gets to speak before the UN today and receive the applause of all the other 3rd world dictators for his “principled” stand against “tyranny”.


6 posted on 06/30/2009 5:59:18 AM PDT by saganite (What would Sully do?)
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To: PJ-Comix
Intentional or not the AP sees a dictatorial connection. Leaders from Obama to Chavez blast Honduras coup.
7 posted on 06/30/2009 6:00:25 AM PDT by McGruff (We are still waiting to see how the situation in Iran plays out - Barack Obama 6/26/2009)
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To: CodeMasterPhilzar

We should be so lucky! Seven Days in May only this time I’ll be rooting for the Generals.


8 posted on 06/30/2009 6:00:48 AM PDT by pgkdan ( I miss Ronald Reagan!)
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To: PJ-Comix

When Castro and Chavez are lining up on the side of the ousted President, it should at least give us cause to pause and further look at the situation before condeming it. That’s for sure. Seems to me that Hondurans understand Democracy far deeper than our current administration.

It’s about checks and balances and no one part of the government can gather too much power unto itself and be in compliance with the constitution. It is the other parts of the government’s duty to ensure this does not happen. The Honduran Congress and Supreme Court ensured this did not happen. Liberal Democracy at it’s finest.


9 posted on 06/30/2009 6:06:43 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Pan_Yan

Some liberals are just that - liberals.

Not all of them are authoritarian socialist statists - just most.


10 posted on 06/30/2009 6:08:52 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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From what I have been able to piece together, and lacking a complete English translation of the Honduran Constitution by which to verify certain items, it looks to me like the Honduran Congress acted constitutionally when they ousted Zelaya(impeached him, to use our term) from the presidency of Honduras. They appear to have done everything required under their constitution for taking such an action (I'm still looking for an english version of their constitution to verify this 100% for myself, though)

It is very possible that the only issue at hand is whether Zelaya's civil rights might have been violated when he was FORCEFULLY removed from his office by military personnel and kicked out of the country (as opposed to being allowed to move out on his own and go home). I understand why the move was taken, but his constitutionl rights (under their constitution) MAY have been violated. THAT, however, is a LONG way from a "coup", and is clearly an internal matter for Hondurans to settle for themselves.

Calling Zelaya's removal from office a coup is the same as calling Rod Blogoyevich's impeachment and removal as governor of Illinois a coup. Legally removing a corrupt politician from office is not a coup.

Obama (at Chavez's behest) demanding this ex-president's return to OFFICE, though, is clearly a case of a U.S. president meddling with the internal affairs of another sovereign nation.

11 posted on 06/30/2009 6:11:28 AM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: pgkdan
Right now cannot be a fun time to be an officer in the US Military - at any level, but particularly the top ranks. They've all sworn an oath to defend the Constitution of the US. Yet here they see their titular Commander In Chief pushing policies that are borderline un-constitutional at best. He's taking actions that are obviously against the spirit, if not the letter, of the law and intent of the Founding Fathers.

The officers, Generals and Admirals, have to have a little tickle in the back of their minds... Could such a day be on the horizon for America? If you had asked me 6 months or a year ago - I'd have said never, no-way. But with obama spreading porkus around, firing IGs, trying to yank back executive pay and renege on contracts, paying off auto unions with bailouts, allowing ACORN to run the census, hiding his birth certificate... These are military men and women. They think in terms of contingencies and planning. I'd be willing to bet they are at least thinking of contingency planning for what if obama takes the gloves off, what if he calls off elections, what would the triggering events or actions by obama be...

12 posted on 06/30/2009 6:15:10 AM PDT by CodeMasterPhilzar (I'll keep my money, my guns, and my freedom. You can keep the "change.")
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To: PJ-Comix

It has become very clear and it all took a few months to convert us from a free democracy to a third world banana republic. Hillary and Bam did not make a mistake re. their stand on Honduras. They chose to stand with Chavez, Castro and Ortega, their communist brothers. Our former enemies are now our friends and we have rolled over without a wimper.


13 posted on 06/30/2009 6:21:49 AM PDT by kenmcg (aS WACKY AS IT MAY)
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To: CodeMasterPhilzar
I asked a Colonel friend of mine last night if he was packed for Honduras. He had just gotten off the plane from California and wasn't up on the news. I told him he would be backing up the Venezuelan troops restoring the Communist to power.

I wish it was funny but the thought that our military would have to interfere in what should be a peaceful, constitutional transfer of power in another country makes me more than a little concerned about what this country will look like when Obama leaves office.

14 posted on 06/30/2009 9:14:30 AM PDT by Pan_Yan (Obama is to Nixon what mass murderer is to jaywalking.)
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To: CodeMasterPhilzar

I think a lot of people have that thought.


15 posted on 06/30/2009 10:15:21 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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