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Britain is no longer a Christian nation, claims Church of England Bishop
telegraph.co.uk ^ | 27 Jun 2009 | Jonathan Wynne-Jones

Posted on 06/27/2009 8:50:42 PM PDT by ozguy

Britain is no longer a Christian nation and the Church of England could die out within a generation, an Anglican bishop has warned.

The Rt Rev Paul Richardson said declining church attendance and the rise in multiculturalism meant that "Christian Britain is dead".

He criticised his fellow bishops for failing to appreciate the scale of the crisis and warned that their inaction could seal the Church's fate.

The General Synod, the Church's parliament, will next month consider proposals to cut the number of bishops and senior clergy amid fears over the Church's finances.

Writing for The Sunday Telegraph, Bishop Richardson said: "Many bishops prefer to turn their heads, to carry on as if nothing has changed, rather than face the reality that Britain is no longer a Christian nation.

"Many of them think that we are still living in the 1950s – a period described by historians as representing a hey day for the established church."

He said that the Church had lost more than one in ten of its regular worshippers between 1996 and 2006, with a fall from more than one million to 880,000.

"At this rate it is hard to see the church surviving for more than 30 years though few of its leaders are prepared to face that possibility," said Bishop Richardson.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: britain; christian; christiannation; england; uk
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To: HiTech RedNeck

No, I’m looking at my neighbors. When we head to church, there aren’t many others out & about. I’m also looking at the acceptance of abortion, Obama, promiscuity in teenagers, acceptance of foul language, etc.


21 posted on 06/27/2009 9:43:47 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (I loathe the ground he slithers on!)
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To: BillyBoy
Big Secular Anglicans(social club folks)are post Christian! The Anglican Church is divided the followers of the Old Prayer Book are as devout as ever. Many young families too!
22 posted on 06/27/2009 9:49:13 PM PDT by BellStar (May the Fourth be with you!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Stupidly generous is right. Only now to slowly regress. Away from progress, away from rights and....well, as a extreme example, into theocratic living.

I know! Lets clear the air and get away from people talking of violence! lets beat the rush and save time through moving to Iran!


23 posted on 06/27/2009 9:50:50 PM PDT by himno hero
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Agreed. Some years ago I attended a C.of E. Easter service with an old English friend in Worthing. Very few people in attendance, all elderly. That evening the same friend took me to a fundamentalist evangelical store-front church she regularly attended. It was crowded, all ages, enthusiastic and committed. Maybe a minority, but a “remnant” is alive.


24 posted on 06/27/2009 9:54:46 PM PDT by Malesherbes (Sauve Qui Peut)
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To: ozguy

” ‘Heavenly Father, we come before you today to ask your forgiveness and
to seek your direction and guidance. We know Your Word says, ‘Woe to
those who call evil good,’ but that is exactly what we have done. We
have lost our spiritual equilibrium and reversed our values. We have
exploited the poor and called it the lottery. We have rewarded laziness
and called it welfare. We have killed our unborn and called it choice.
We have shot abortionists and called it justifiable. We have neglected
to discipline our children and called it building self esteem. We have
abused power and called it politics. We have coveted our neighbor’s
possessions and called it ambition. We have polluted the air with
profanity and pornography and called it freedom of expression. We have
ridiculed the time-honored values of our forefathers and called it
enlightenment. Search us, Oh God, and know our hearts today; cleanse us
from every sin and set us free.. Amen!’

Commentator Paul Harvey aired this prayer on his radio program, ‘The
Rest of the Story,’ and received a larger response to this program than
any other he has ever aired. With the Lord’s help, may this prayer
sweep over our nation and wholeheartedly become our desire so that we
again can be called ‘One nation under God.’”


25 posted on 06/27/2009 9:56:26 PM PDT by BellStar (May the Fourth be with you!)
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To: ozguy

The UK is done, and has been for some years now. Unrelenting, non-stop immigration, has destroyed Britain


26 posted on 06/27/2009 10:00:48 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Mr Rogers
Indeed there has. Have you noticed the former Prime Minister of England, Tony Blair, joined a new church and became a devout Roman Catholic upon retiring from political office? That would have been unthinkable a decade ago. The Catholic ranks in England have swelled thanks to polish and Irish immigration, and the Evangelical protestants have increased in large numbers too. The total percentage of Catholics in England is still only 4.5% of the population (a century ago it was half that), thanks to centuries of oppression by the "official" religion of the country (Anglicanism), yet England has almost 900,000 Catholics who are weekly church goers. For the first time in 500 years, that's more churchgoers than the "official" religion of the country, even though their total "membership" of people who consider themselves Anglican in the UK is 25 million people, pretty pathetic turnout on Sunday considering them outnumber Catholics 6-to-1.

There has been a rise in the proportion of ‘charismatic’ evangelicals from 38% in 1998 to 40% in 2005, nearing the figures of 1989, when charismatic evangelicals constituted 44% of evangelicals.

They's also increased in numbers due to more minorities joining church congregations. The number of non-white evangelical church goers has increased from 208,500 in 1998, to 286,000 in 2005; a proportional rise of 37%. Additionally, non-white evangelicals now constitute 18% of the total number of evangelicals. The highest proportion of non-white churchgoers is found among charismatic evangelicals, where they constitute 31% of the total, closely followed by Catholics, where the proportion is 28%.

Additionally, according to the 2005 English Church Census, 40% of regular churchgoers in England attend evangelical churches – two-fifths of total English churchgoers. The proportion of evangelicals in the churchgoing population has risen from 37% in 1998 to 40% in 2005.Pentecostal churches have seen a 34% rise in regular church attendance since 1998.

In raw numbers, the 3,656 Roman Catholic churches have an average congregation of 244. Of the 2,227 Pentecostal churches, they have an average congregation 129. Of the 1,307 ‘new’ Christian churches, they have an average congregation of 140 people. On the other hand, of the 16,247 Anglican churches in England, they an average congregation size of only 54 people.

In short, Christianity is growing in England, especially when it comes to the number of Catholics and pentecostal evangelical protestants in their country. The numbers are weekly church attendence are on the rise.

It's the "Church of England" -- the "official" Christian church of the country -- where Christianity is dying and their baptized members are Christian in name only.

27 posted on 06/27/2009 10:03:59 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: Mr Rogers

The “etc.” part is where you’re seeing a heavy media bias. Most polls on abortion carried on by the MSM deliberately blur the picture — acceptance goes way down when the descriptions become more graphic and/or focus specifically on the 90%+ of cases who want abortion only out of convenience. Obama acceptance today is media distortion of media distorted polls taken of people whose major world views come through the distorted media (or else godless democrat politicians). Light traffic on Sunday might even be viewed as a Good Thing if the alternative is to mob the malls.


28 posted on 06/27/2009 10:06:06 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Don't blame me -- I use Linux.)
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To: padre35

That’s kind of what happens when your theology and polity is controlled by politicians.


29 posted on 06/27/2009 10:06:32 PM PDT by Rodebrecht (What are you and who do you want?)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

As a Baptist, I can relate. Back when I was a member of the Catholic church … I served as an alter boy and often helped the Priest stagger his way off the dais after mass. Drunk before Mass, drunker after Mass. LOL!


30 posted on 06/27/2009 10:11:00 PM PDT by doc1019
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To: doc1019

Could Luther have overdone it on the beer (or with bad beer), leading to his notorious fits of fury? Dunno. Some Catholic priests have a problem habit of dipping into the Communion wine.


31 posted on 06/27/2009 10:16:58 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Don't blame me -- I use Linux.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

LOL! Who knows?


32 posted on 06/27/2009 10:19:23 PM PDT by doc1019
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To: BillyBoy

You mean Henry VIII.


33 posted on 06/27/2009 10:57:01 PM PDT by FFranco (To be stupid, and selfish, and to have good health are the three requirements for happiness.)
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To: BillyBoy
In short, Christianity is growing in England, especially when it comes to the number of Catholics and pentecostal evangelical protestants in their country. The numbers are weekly church attendence are on the rise.

Glad you posted this....I tend to be greeted with disbelief when I tell people that in many respects Christianity in Britain is thriving.

34 posted on 06/28/2009 4:04:57 AM PDT by Winniesboy
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To: ozguy

I am a Catholic but I hope the CofE has a revivial. This reminds me of the CofE in the 18th/early 19th century which was vanilla and definately more ‘Of this world”. A large portion of the clergy were in it for social status and getting the income of the living attached to a appointment than serving Christ. If you read Austen, George Eliot, etc you know what I mean. Nature abhors a vacuum and this lead to the creation of more non-conformist congregations, Wesley and the Methodists. Or attempts to make the CofE more “Catholic” or outright conservion to Roman Catholicism, for example the Pusyites and one its more famous members Newman becoming a Roman Catholic. I find it interesting from the comments and article you have the same situation today of people going to the Catholic church or evangelical congregations and I see that as a very good thing.


35 posted on 06/28/2009 5:04:58 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: ozguy
Even though the Libertarians don't believe it. This is the beginning of the end.
36 posted on 06/28/2009 5:06:17 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Obama is an illegal alien)
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To: ozguy

The article said — Britain is no longer a Christian nation and the Church of England could die out within a generation, an Anglican bishop has warned.

Same thing with America...


37 posted on 06/28/2009 5:26:26 AM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: BellStar

Instead of providing the leadership and moral support the Church has needed for decades, Queen Elizabeth and her selfish, miserable brood have presided over the demise of the Anglican Church. Like the first Elizabeth, who taxed the people to the point of rebellion, and like the harridan Victoria, she has “ruled” much too long.


38 posted on 06/28/2009 6:16:32 AM PDT by Melchior
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To: HiTech RedNeck

As a Briton who is a good Baptist I dont believe we should have a State religion anyway, so I think the CofE should be disestablished.

That would help the Church immensely. Nothing about winking at the antics of the royals. They are no better or worse than most of the British population at large. Indeed, if their function is to represent us, they are doing a dang fine job on that particular front.

The main plus is that the Church can carry out its original mission without being tied to the establishment. The problem with alliances between Church and State is that having your views represented in Parliament or senate may seem appealing, but you got to remember that the politicos ALWAYS get more out of the alliance.


39 posted on 06/28/2009 6:47:50 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: Mr Rogers

I’m not sure that either Britain or the US were ever a “Christian nation” (whatever that is).

I prefer to refer to nations that once had a preponderence of Christians in them.


40 posted on 06/28/2009 6:49:43 AM PDT by Vanders9
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