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We (the government) will decide if you are too old to live.
ABC ^ | 6-24-09 | Obama

Posted on 06/25/2009 8:10:10 AM PDT by Indy Pendance

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101 posted on 06/25/2009 10:16:56 AM PDT by green pastures
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To: conservativegramma

Thank you, pretty much what I had guessed. A nice repeat graphic might include that information at the bottom. In fact, in my opinion, it should be posted as often as possible.


102 posted on 06/25/2009 10:17:58 AM PDT by MizSterious (Enough with Barak "let them eat cake" Obama)
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To: MizSterious
Here's my interpretation:


103 posted on 06/25/2009 10:20:17 AM PDT by Lady Jag (Communism + Hezbollah + Al Qaeda + Obama + StoneAge = CHAOS)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

He says, “Maybe...”

Health care decision based on a “maybe?” Who gets to decide if I’m “better off” taking the painkiller?

Where’s AARP on this? Are they still licking the DNC boots?


104 posted on 06/25/2009 10:34:25 AM PDT by DPMD (~)
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To: cvq3842

>And they compared Bush to Hitler!<

Projection.


105 posted on 06/25/2009 10:36:40 AM PDT by Darnright (There can never be a complete confidence in a power which is excessive. - Tacitus)
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To: MizSterious
A nice repeat graphic might include that information at the bottom. In fact, in my opinion, it should be posted as often as possible.

Your wish is my command!

Translation (roughly): (Monetary figure at top) "Hereditary Disease which lasts a lifetime...People of Germany its your money...The new national... (then lists political party information at the bottom)."

106 posted on 06/25/2009 10:37:13 AM PDT by conservativegramma ((No taxation without constitutional representation!))
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To: dfwgator

ok that logan’s run quip was pretty much the best one possible for this thread


107 posted on 06/25/2009 11:29:47 AM PDT by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: Mount Athos
ok that logan’s run quip was pretty much the best one possible for this thread

And ironically on the day Farrah Fawcett passed.

108 posted on 06/25/2009 11:31:06 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

oh i forgot she was in that movie. The plastic surgery unit


109 posted on 06/25/2009 11:33:56 AM PDT by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: Pride in the USA
Obamacare = Geriatric Genocide

That's so accurate and so cleverly said. It would make for good Tea Party signage if you're going to the next one.

110 posted on 06/25/2009 11:40:05 AM PDT by lonevoice (This tagline is identical to the one you are reading)
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To: Darnright

They are all about projection.
Also NEVER FORGET.
obama=dim rat party=media=obama=dimrat party.........


111 posted on 06/25/2009 11:43:13 AM PDT by Texas resident
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To: BlueNgold

Apparently there is one in the works—

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0402344/

Logan’s Run (2010)

A young man at odds with his society’s mandatory death sentence for all those turning 21 plots a daring escape on the eve of his fateful birthday.


112 posted on 06/25/2009 12:03:47 PM PDT by green pastures
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To: cripplecreek

My 102 year old grandfather had pneumonia in February and RECOVERED and is doing well!


113 posted on 06/25/2009 12:22:02 PM PDT by EdnaMode
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To: sanjuanbob

They say its impossible to overturn “Entitlements” the Dem special interest groups would write to everyone on .Govcare and tell them Republicans are trying to kill them.
the possible way would be to replace Obamacare with a private plan with lower copays.


114 posted on 06/25/2009 2:41:30 PM PDT by omega4179 (America is a Christian Nation.)
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To: conservativegramma

Beautiful. Well done!


115 posted on 06/25/2009 2:46:43 PM PDT by MizSterious (Enough with Barak "let them eat cake" Obama)
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To: MozarkDawg

It is unconsionable and ammoral not offer pain relief to a human being. Without it your ability to suruvive is reduced.


116 posted on 06/25/2009 5:38:21 PM PDT by Vendome
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To: Indy Pendance
OBAMA: But what we can do is make sure that at least some of the waste that exists in the system that's not making anybody's mom better, that is loading up on additional tests or additional drugs that the evidence shows is not necessarily going to improve care, that at least we can let doctors know and your mom know that, you know what? Maybe this isn't going to help. Maybe you're better off not having the surgery, but taking the painkiller.

I can't find that quote in the transcript,

Did he really say this???

117 posted on 06/25/2009 8:50:17 PM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: Vendome
It is unconsionable and ammoral not offer pain relief to a human being. Without it your ability to suruvive is reduced.

When I made my comment about denying painkillers to a dying person because of fear of dependency on an earlier thread, I got a reply that said some painkillers will impede respiration, cause the patient to die sooner than he ought. I will accede that this in indeed contrary to the intent, but I for one have never heard that proffered as the reason for denial, it has always been, "Well, we don't want him hooked."

The thing is, Vendome, as instructed by those in hospice care, one cannot be hooked on painkillers if he has PAIN. It's those who use the drugs after the cause of the pain is removed, either the injury healed or surgery eliminated it, etc., that are abusing the narcs, not dying patients. My mother was a neurosurgical nurse for the last 25 years of her career, she tells me of umpteen patients she treated who were comatose, yet the body felt pain, they knew because of the increase in blood pressure for one symptom, she would administer IM and see changes in the vital signs, indicators that the pain was relieved, the patient more comfortable. Even if you are not conscious, your body feels it, pain does serious damage to you.

It is so unfortunate that it seems the only way to understand and appreciate these things is to go through it yourself -- or be one like you, someone who cares about a friend enough to be truly empathetic. It doesn't matter how many examples we could give, stories we could tell, demonstrate in person, way too many in this nation just will not believe it until they live it ... worse, die from it, THEN they *get it*. Sad.

118 posted on 06/28/2009 8:44:17 AM PDT by MozarkDawg
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