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Neda, young girl brutally killed in Iran (portrait of Neda)
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| 6.21.09
| Helen Kennedy
Posted on 06/21/2009 5:06:24 PM PDT by libh8er
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To: Rokurota
If you watch the video of her being placed on the ground, they lay her in a pool of blood. Had she been shot with a gun, there wouldn’t be a pool, but a small to a large splatter of blood. That was a perfectly formed pool of blood. I am sorry, but it really seems staged to me.
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posted on
06/21/2009 9:23:20 PM PDT
by
phalynx
To: metmom
The last still photo in comment# 58 looks convincing. I can see why the video is problematic.
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posted on
06/21/2009 9:35:50 PM PDT
by
neverdem
(Xin loi minh oi)
To: drpix
Any trained sniper will tell you that a center mass shot is favored over a head shot because the torso or chest area is a larger target than the head. Also the chest travels less,(center lined)therefore a better chance of a kill shot.As for the blood coming out of the mouth and nose seconds after she hits the ground would be correct. It takes a few seconds to fill the chest cavity with blood for it to exit through the mouth and nose. If you noticed, the through wound was sealed by the pavement on her back and the hands over her chest wound, then she bled out the mouth. This would give the blood the only exit.
If you have ever witnessed a kill close up, you know that look on the victims face can't be faked. It's a look of disbelief and then acceptance as life leaves the body.
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posted on
06/21/2009 9:46:29 PM PDT
by
odin2008
(Everything in the universe is subject to change.)
To: neverdem
The second video in the link in post 96 is what convinces me most that it’s real.
Towards the end, someone moves her body and the blood just gushes (pours) from her nose or eye (it’s hard to tell the source with the amount on her face) like it would if someone squeezed her body.
There’s no sign of her breathing, or trying to. No sign of bubbles coming through the blood if she were breathing. She’s perfectly motionless except for them trying to staunch the wound.
Her hands are still and limp in an odd sort of way, like I’d think they would be for someone who’s unconscious.
We’ve seen so many fake deaths on TV that I think that’s what may have some people confused as to what real death looks like, or should be expected.
BTW, I saw that glazed look in my father’s eyes when he died. It was the same.
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posted on
06/21/2009 10:03:39 PM PDT
by
metmom
(Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
To: phalynx
I will say that, having seen the results of medium to high velocity rifle projectiles striking non-human targets in the upper chest, this is real. I am absolutely certain that the event shown in the video happened as the witnesses testify that it did. I have no medical credentials, but I understand elementary physics and how its laws apply to ammo. My prayers are with the people of Iran. May god bless them.
To: odin2008
If you have ever witnessed a kill close up, you know that look on the victims face can't be faked. It's a look of disbelief and then acceptance as life leaves the body. Although my dad wasn't killed, his eyes glazed over the same way when he died.
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posted on
06/21/2009 10:05:49 PM PDT
by
metmom
(Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
To: Caipirabob
"I hope they get this Iranian mess cleaned up by Wednesday...that's cocktail night!"
To: RummyChick
You people act like it is a sin to dare question a video. It's completely legitimate to question a video.
However, this one does not look fake. On other threads, Freepers with combat experience who have seen in person what happens to people who are shot as Neda was believe the video to be real.
But it really doesn't matter whether the video is real or fake, as long as it inspires the Iranian people to topple the regime. The election was a joke. Ahmadinejad or Moussavi? Who cares? It's the Guardian Council who decides who even gets to run, much less who gets to win. The government is illegitimate. No Iranian has any obligation to obey it or support it. The issue is not who won the election. It's whether the Guardian Council should live or die. I'm looking forward to a Ceausescu outcome, but I'll probably be disappointed.
To: Seven plus One
“They had to import these thugs from Lebanon, Syria, and “Palestine”. “
Really? The news outlets I read haven’t told me that.
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posted on
06/21/2009 11:27:58 PM PDT
by
dsc
(A man with an experience is never at the mercy of a man with an argument.)
To: dsc
Seriously? I didnt think Iran required it. Iran is illegitimate. Where does Iran get to require anything?
To: maggief
I could give a rip what you do or do not what to see.
You're such a nice person, glad to have you here at FR.
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posted on
06/22/2009 3:28:03 AM PDT
by
visualops
(portraits.artlife.us or visit my freeper page)
To: dsc
they don't but it proves she has western cultural values not in keeping with the hardliners
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posted on
06/22/2009 3:42:54 AM PDT
by
Chode
(American Hedonist - Obama is basically Jim Jones with a teleprompter)
To: Rokurota
Only at first. Then absolute stillness.
Nice try though -- and you left ALL the other points unaddressed.
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posted on
06/22/2009 4:05:46 AM PDT
by
grey_whiskers
(The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
To: odin2008
If you noticed, the through wound was sealed by the pavement on her back and the hands over her chest wound, then she bled out the mouth. This would give the blood the only exit. If you have ever witnessed a kill close up, you know that look on the victims face can't be faked. It's a look of disbelief and then acceptance as life leaves the body. That is her "look".
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posted on
06/22/2009 7:03:26 AM PDT
by
GOPJ
(Chubby people live longer - by years! Hey food police - we're putting a tax on tofu and sprouts!)
To: definitelynotaliberal
“And who would take over for him? Joseph Freaking Biden?!!!”
As bad as Biden is, if he’s the only option, I’d take him over zer0.
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posted on
06/22/2009 7:23:53 AM PDT
by
ScottinVA
(Impeach President Soros!!!)
To: libh8er
Photo at 11 ...
Goodness, how big Urkel has gotten over the years.
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posted on
06/22/2009 7:30:29 AM PDT
by
BlueLancer
(Think Of It As Evolution in Action)
To: libh8er
Photo at 11 ...
Goodness, how big Urkel has gotten over the years.
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posted on
06/22/2009 7:31:56 AM PDT
by
BlueLancer
(Think Of It As Evolution in Action)
To: BlueLancer
Man, I need to get my sear fixed ...
Two rounds with one trigger pull ...
118
posted on
06/22/2009 7:32:43 AM PDT
by
BlueLancer
(Think Of It As Evolution in Action)
To: Rokurota; RummyChick
So you think a missle hit the Pentagon and shaped charges were used to take down the WTC? That quackery also started as 'people asking simple questions'. Btw genius, when a person's eyes "glaze over" it's due to dryness from the tear ducts no longer pumping saline to the eyes. That is not something which can be faked or done in a matter of seconds unless one dies as it's an autonomic nervous reaction. She died and some of you are being real jackasses about it.
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posted on
06/22/2009 8:51:00 AM PDT
by
Justa
To: Justa
What nonsense are you spewing, Justa?
Are you seriously comparing a shabby cell phone video from an unknown source to those other events?
If you are going to play this type of game then: I bet you believe there really was an alien autopsy at a military base.
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