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To: JoeProBono

I find it odd that the background is in green. You have to keep in mind, the year is 1961 and real documents then (more likely than not) would have been black and white.


8 posted on 06/21/2009 7:45:37 AM PDT by himno hero
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To: himno hero
BC’s are black and white. I just looked at mine from California and a couple on the Internet from Hawaii. They are from the same time and they are indeed black and white. Additionally, I just looked at two from Utah, one is from 1910 and the other from 1907 and they also are in black and white.

Keep in mind that color adds to the cost of a document and recording births something, that for the governments, is a simple statement of fact. The only other BC’s I have seen with color were printed on yellow paper but not full color.

All of the BC’s I have ever seen contain all the information we are insisting would be on a BC.

The fraudulent one, by Barry, contains very little information typical to a BC and is rife with mistakes.

18 posted on 06/21/2009 8:12:01 AM PDT by Vendome
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To: himno hero

You can get official reproductions that would be printed in today’s style. That being said... I don’t know what to believe. I don’t want to look like a “9/11 Truther” but that’s not saying I disbelieve this story either.


23 posted on 06/21/2009 8:14:01 AM PDT by Dan Nunn (Some of us are wise, some of us are otherwise. -The Great One)
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To: himno hero
There is NO dispute that the COLB was produced recently, even by those who say it is real.
A COLB is, simply put, a computer generated form, documenting data held in the computer system, on a particular person.

This COLB is NOT the same as an original, long-form Birth Certificate.

This COLB does not list the doctor or hospital, for instance.

26 posted on 06/21/2009 8:15:36 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: himno hero
My daughter was born in 1961 & has original birth certificate in black & white with all info from Miami beach, FL hospital.
This certificate is not real but a certificate that you can have for birth or marriage but proves nothing.
I dad to show my passport eleven times before getting on a plane for London. My granddaughter one year old had to have a pass port before traveling to London.
The government will not accept a copy like Obama’s green certificate but you need the orginial that is completely filled out when applying for a US passport.
Did he ever travel abroad before becoming a candidate?
If a person has nothing to hide then why be afraid to show it?
Makes a person think something is not kosher...
38 posted on 06/21/2009 8:29:05 AM PDT by mendedheart
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To: himno hero
My daughter was born in 1961 & has original birth certificate in black & white with all info from Miami beach, FL hospital.
This certificate is not real but a certificate that you can have for birth or marriage but proves nothing.
I dad to show my passport eleven times before getting on a plane for London. My granddaughter one year old had to have a pass port before traveling to London.
The government will not accept a copy like Obama’s green certificate but you need the orginial that is completely filled out when applying for a US passport.
Did he ever travel abroad before becoming a candidate?
If a person has nothing to hide then why be afraid to show it?
Makes a person think something is not kosher...
41 posted on 06/21/2009 8:33:03 AM PDT by mendedheart
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To: himno hero

My daughter was born in 1961 & has orginal birth certificate in black & white with all info from Miama beach, FL hospital.
This certificate is not real but a certificate that you can have for birth or marriage but proves nothing.
I dad to show my passport eleven times before getting on a plane for London. My granddaughter one year old had to have a pass port before traveling to London.
The government will not accept a copy like Obama’s green certificate but you need the orginial that is completely filled out when applying for a US passport.
Did he ever travel abroad before be4coming a candiate?
If a person has nothing to hide then why be afraid to show it?
Makes a person think something is not kosher...


42 posted on 06/21/2009 8:33:52 AM PDT by mendedheart
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