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Democrats offer Californians a deal: Hike car tax, save state parks
Mercury News ^ | 6/15/09 | Mike Zapler

Posted on 06/15/2009 9:23:40 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

SACRAMENTO — In a bid to avoid mass closures of state parks, Assembly Democrats on Monday offered a financial trade-off: Pay an additional $15 to register your car, and in return, the state will waive vehicle entry fees at all state parks for anyone with a California license plate.

The proposal, outlined by Assembly Speaker Karen Bass, D-Los Angeles, is part of a sweeping budget plan Democrats aim to unveil this week and vote on as early as next week. ...

But Bass said the majority party would also push for at least a handful of tax increases. In addition to the car tax to keep state parks open, Democrats are also considering a 9.9 percent oil extraction tax for producers ...

Bass also reiterated a Democratic pledge not to raid $2 billion from local governments to help bridge the state's deficit, as Schwarzenegger proposed last month.

Combined, the oil and parks proposals would generate slightly more than $1 billion annually — $830 million from the oil tax and about $220 million in net revenue from the parks plan. But to pass, they require a two-thirds majority in both houses of the Legislature, and thus a handful of Republican votes. That appears unlikely given stiff GOP opposition to taxes in the past, but Bass said she remains optimistic.

"Given the fact we would face the closure of so many parks," she said, "I'm hopeful we will be able to get the votes that we need."

Eighty percent of state parks, and nearly all in the Bay Area — including Mount Tam, Henry W. Coe State Park and Big Basin — would close under the governor's budget plan.

The $15-per-car tax would come on top of a near-doubling of the vehicle registration fee that the state adopted in February.

(Excerpt) Read more at mercurynews.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: calbudget; california; californians; caltaxes; democrats; karenbass; parks
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1 posted on 06/15/2009 9:23:41 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

Close the parks!


2 posted on 06/15/2009 9:24:26 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all. -- Texas Eagle)
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To: NormsRevenge

Better yet, sell the land the parks are on!


3 posted on 06/15/2009 9:24:49 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all. -- Texas Eagle)
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To: NormsRevenge

Democrats created this mess and they can shove their car tax. Californians are paying outrageous registration already. They can put they car tax where the sun don’t shine! BTW, none of the Assembly have cut their pay one cent nor have they cut off taxpayer funds supporting illegals.


4 posted on 06/15/2009 9:25:33 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: NormsRevenge; ALOHA RONNIE; ElkGroveDan; goldstategop; sheik yerbouty; SoldiersPrayingMom

They’re typical Liberals, they think the taxpayers of CA are too stupid to figure out that the RATs created this mess.


5 posted on 06/15/2009 9:27:19 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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They spent 3.2 million on cars for the legislators the last three years.

Let ‘em walk or ride a bike or take public transit ..


6 posted on 06/15/2009 9:27:44 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed.)
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To: NormsRevenge

The closure of the parks is the one thing that I won’t like if the gov’t shuts down. As ole Huell says, “They are CA’s gold.” It would be a pity to sacrifice them for union goons and welfare layabouts.


7 posted on 06/15/2009 9:28:12 PM PDT by Lou Budvis (Palin Nation = Reagan Country.)
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To: Texas Eagle

State Parks actually make a profit, so of course they are threatening to close them.


8 posted on 06/15/2009 9:29:03 PM PDT by Hugin (GSA! (Goodbye sweet America))
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To: NormsRevenge
Any major metropolitan area in this country located in a reasonable alternative to tax-addicted southern California could attract the movie/TV business away from its current location. That would cause a sea-change in California.

Can't happen? Okay, remember when Detroit produced over 50% of the automobile output in this country? Did anybody ever think that would change?

9 posted on 06/15/2009 9:29:16 PM PDT by Bernard (If you always tell the truth, you never have to remember exactly what you said.)
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To: NormsRevenge

This is so much BS!

$15.00 per car....save the parks......the parks aren’t going anywhere.

People will still go to the parks. They’ll climb over the fence, cut the chains on the...well...chains.

How about cut the welfare, cut the illegal immigration welfare, cut the paying family members to care for sick family members...cut, cut cut.


10 posted on 06/15/2009 9:30:44 PM PDT by occamrzr06 (What? Right Now?)
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To: Hugin
State Parks actually make a profit, so of course they are threatening to close them.

Maybe a few like Yosemite but there are hundreds of state parks in California that have nothing more than an abandoned guard shack with a locked box for visitors to put their five bucks into.

11 posted on 06/15/2009 9:30:56 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all. -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Texas Eagle
. . . there are hundreds of state parks in California that have nothing more than an abandoned guard shack with a locked box for visitors to put their five bucks into.

How much money would the state save by closing the parks you describe?

12 posted on 06/15/2009 9:34:12 PM PDT by Logophile
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To: NormsRevenge

I suppose next the Cali. Dems will be advocating that toll booths be set up on every road exiting Cali....


13 posted on 06/15/2009 9:34:52 PM PDT by cranked
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To: NormsRevenge

I was at the Sacramento Tea Party held on the steps of the Capitol where these schmucks were hiding inside. They’re reprehensible and stupid since they didn’t get the message being chanted by 15,000 people. The taxpayers of CA are not stupid and know of their corruption and duplicity in creating this mess that is now California. Vote Them All Out


14 posted on 06/15/2009 9:35:19 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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How much money would the state save by closing the parks you describe?

Hard to say but if the RATS say it would prevent a hike in car taxes, I say close 'em. And sell the property.

Not all the parks obviously but start with the ones that are all but abandoned.

15 posted on 06/15/2009 9:36:27 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all. -- Texas Eagle)
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To: NormsRevenge
Pay an additional $15 to register your car, and in return, the state will waive vehicle entry fees at all state parks for anyone with a California license plate.

How about increasing the user fees on the parks so that those who use them pay for them? Or maybe California can go further down the road of taxes completely unrelated to their benefits. Tax artificial limbs to keep open the far left lane of each highway? Is that a nonsensical match of tax to spending? No more so than charging an extra $15 car tax to allow people to go into state parks.

16 posted on 06/15/2009 9:36:59 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, AIG, Chrysler and GM are what Marx meant by the means of production.)
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To: Texas Eagle
hundreds of state parks in California that have nothing more than an abandoned guard shack with a locked box for visitors to put their five bucks into.

Those don't cost much of anything to keep open, do they?

The fact is overall, State Parks bring in more in camping and parking fees than it costs to staff them. In fact, park reservations and receipts are skyrocketing now because they are relatively cheap vations in a bad economy. This is just another way to blackmail the voters into accepting higher taxes.

17 posted on 06/15/2009 9:37:19 PM PDT by Hugin (GSA! (Goodbye sweet America))
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To: ExTexasRedhead
Send this message to the Ca. Dem legislatures in Sacto.


18 posted on 06/15/2009 9:40:38 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: NormsRevenge

Heck No!..or can you say “Heck No”, and I am not a Californian, but sympathize with you conservatives and libertarians out there!


19 posted on 06/15/2009 9:40:47 PM PDT by JSDude1 (DHS, FBI, FEMA, etc have been bad little boys. They need to be spanked and sent to timeout!)
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To: Hugin
Those don't cost much of anything to keep open, do they?

I don't know. But it seems to me they could make money by selling a lot of them and bring in yearly revenue from the property taxes.

Like I said, a lot of these parks have nothing but a slot in the door of the abandoned guard shack or a locked metal box for people to put their money into. I highly doubt everybody pays.

We do, of course. Ahem.

20 posted on 06/15/2009 9:42:00 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all. -- Texas Eagle)
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