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To: TomOnTheRun
I think that in 50 years most American conservatives will be looking back on this time with a lot of chagrin about how they chased away the support and votes of LOTS of people that wanted to support them.

Believe it or not, I do not join in much of the moslem bashing on this forum because much of such bashing is based on erroneous liberal western concepts that are actually alien to the Bible (what kind of "philo-Semite" makes fun of people for not eating pork???). Nevertheless, I must point out that American moslems seem to have become happy members of the Grand Leftist Coalition, never taking part in the debates on homosexuality or abortion and instead joining in the attacks on the white chr*stian male "oppressor" for his bigotry and "islamophobia" (a word based on the word "homophobia").

Let some moslems get out and participate in these causes and I will perhaps be more sympathetic.

107 posted on 06/10/2009 12:58:02 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Vayhi binsoa` ha'Aron vayo'mer Mosheh: qumah HaShem veyafutzu 'oyeveykha . . .)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

I hear you - but I also think we chased a lot of them away. In 2000 Many moslems were JUST beginning to flex political muscles. They had just gotten over being the “untrustworthy other” and were starting to participate in debates about just such things as you mentioned. Then 9/11 happened and the rest is history.

In the meantime I can’t say I blame them for working with Democrats. You work with the people that don’t call you walking extensions of the will of Satan or do darned fool things like hold monthly pig races and hot-dog cookouts next to the new mosque. (NO joke. That happens here in Houston. Katy, TX as well.) Why would they want to work with people that are obnoxious to them? I also worked with Democrats for a while for similar reasons. The local republican party was unwilling to work with me and if I wanted to get ANYTHING done on the local level I had to work with Democrats because single-issue republicans in my area flatly refused to work with me.

Give them space and some quiet respect and maybe more of them will go out and participate in those causes. They are the only reliable opposition to abortion in the UN for example.


110 posted on 06/10/2009 1:08:24 PM PDT by TomOnTheRun
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