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March of the extremists: BNP wins first ever seat in European Parliament...
Daily Mail ^ | June 8, 2009 | By Staff

Posted on 06/07/2009 5:29:41 PM PDT by C19fan

The British National Party sent shockwaves through mainstream British politics last night by winning their first seat in the European Parliament. Also, in a terrible night for Labour, the Conservatives became the highest polling party in Wales for the first time since 1918. With six regional results in across Britain, Labour looked set

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: bhoeurope; bnp; conservatives; eu; labour; uk; wales
Is the BNP really racist? I find myself in total agreement with the BNP chap who won when he stated:

'We should ensure Christian and democratic values should remain the foundation of our country and everybody should understand that.’ Mr Griffin said Islam was being used as a ‘battering ram’ to ‘destroy traditional Christian values’. ‘I have said individuals who are the biggest victims of Islam are muslim women. ‘Their religion is not welcome in significant amounts of this country because it can't sit side by side with democracy. ‘It is a simple fact the elites are going to have to get their heads around and deal with'

Does that make me a racist?

1 posted on 06/07/2009 5:29:41 PM PDT by C19fan
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To: C19fan
Another sample from this article:

The UK results came as conservative parties raced toward victory across Europe as voters punishing left-leaning parties. First projections by the European Union showed centre-right parties would have the most seats - between 263 and 273 - in the 736-member parliament.

2 posted on 06/07/2009 5:35:18 PM PDT by Larry381 ("in the final instance civilization is always saved by a platoon of soldiers" Oswald Spengler)
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When one has been persecuted and pushed to the very edge, when their values have been assaulted and their most cherished religious beliefs defined as criminal by the enemy, being prepared to go war as a matter of survival is hardly extremist.


3 posted on 06/07/2009 5:36:36 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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Is the BNP really racist?

Their website has:

The enemies of British Nationalism continue to parrot the claim that the BNP is a “racist party.” This claim is most often repeated because the BNP unashamedly addresses itself to the issues and concerns of the indigenous British population, and because it seeks to ensure that British people remain the majority population in this country. Opponents point to the fact that the BNP has an all-white membership, and that we address issues concerning white people.
Visualize a US organization with that position getting a member elected to Congress. The MSMs' collective heads would explode.
4 posted on 06/07/2009 5:41:39 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money -- Thatcher)
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The cute thing is that current British results have the Conservatives plus the "UK Independence Party"[small-l libertarian party which want to withdraw from EU] plus the BNP getting a total of 52.2% of the popular vote. Labour is down to 14.4%

The Lefties in Britain have just been creamed.

5 posted on 06/07/2009 5:45:37 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money -- Thatcher)
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‘Visualize a US organization with that position getting a member elected to Congress.’

You mean someone like Robert K. Byrd, perhaps?


6 posted on 06/07/2009 5:52:57 PM PDT by castlebrew (Gun control means hitting where you're aiming!)
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To: PapaBear3625

Yes, now they need to do it in a general election! (Which can be done, IMO).


7 posted on 06/07/2009 5:54:58 PM PDT by JSDude1 (DHS, FBI, FEMA, etc have been bad little boys. They need to be spanked and sent to timeout!)
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Ah, but Byrd is a Dem, so he's forgiven.

I've been looking thru some BNP stuff on Youtube. Here's a sample

8 posted on 06/07/2009 5:56:42 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money -- Thatcher)
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Enoch Powell was branded a racist 40 years ago for suggesting that changing Britain from a historically white, Christian nation to a multicultural hodgepodge would be a disaster. The disaster is now there for all to see. The only two options are for whites to simply concede their ancestral land and fade into irrelevancy, or to behave just as racially as non-whites routinely behave. The BNP is clearly the latter option being played out.

A few sane people warned of this decades ago, but everyone bought into the liberal line that “race doesn't matter” and that a nation could be 25% white, 25% black, 25% Mid-Eastern Muslim, and 25% assorted other ethnicities and everything would continue along as normal. Well, it won't.

9 posted on 06/07/2009 6:02:05 PM PDT by puroresu (Enjoy ASIAN CINEMA? See my Freeper page for recommendations (REALLY & TRULY updated!).)
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To: PapaBear3625

“Visualize a US organization with that position getting a member elected to Congress. The MSMs’ collective heads would explode”

It will happen here. Eventually people get their bellies full


10 posted on 06/07/2009 6:03:31 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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To: C19fan

In this day and age, anything can be labelled racist.


11 posted on 06/07/2009 6:05:34 PM PDT by popdonnelly (The greatest crimes in history have been perpetrated by governments. You've been warned.)
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"The Lefties in Britain have just been creamed. "

Excellent, excellent news. Maybe there is hope for the Brits.

12 posted on 06/07/2009 6:11:26 PM PDT by blam
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To: PapaBear3625

That’s a good but scary video. I worry that the same is becoming the norm here too.


13 posted on 06/07/2009 6:17:14 PM PDT by blam
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BBC vote totals now have BNP having won TWO seats in the EU Parliament.
14 posted on 06/07/2009 6:21:57 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money -- Thatcher)
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“‘We are not a racist party. We do say this country is full up. The key thing is to shut the door.’
He added: ‘When you got to somewhere like Bradford, it is not immigration it is colonisation and it is out of control.”

Apparently it’s not just in US that “racist” is the preferred perjorative to condemn conservatives.

Yesterday there was a post by a “professional,” a “scientist,” who analyzed people opposition to illegal immigration and who concluded that any argument against illegal immigration was an excuse for racism.


15 posted on 06/07/2009 6:22:25 PM PDT by Bhoy
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My observation.

The BNP itself is not racist. But a significant number of its members are.

There are good reasons to support many BNP policies such as limiting immigration. But there are bad reasons to do it too. They wind up with both supporting them.


16 posted on 06/07/2009 6:43:55 PM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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Does that make me a racist?

Absolutely not. Of course when hysteria is a foot, the word may be bandied about with much ado.

You see, when certain people in London Town go ranting on about killing the infidel, they can get away with it.(See DFU- Muslims in London). The police are very cautious in this matter. I am trying now to handle this with a bit of humour. I had teed off on another post on the subject.

Yes they scream, here they come, "Helmets, swastikas, Oswald Mosley's lot. Call out the guards" .

A jolly good old hysteria can be had by all, then back to the garden, the local pub, and the television.

17 posted on 06/07/2009 6:56:19 PM PDT by Peter Libra
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Has anyone else had it with seeing anyone on the right being labeled as an extremist?

I want to see Socialism utterly discredited. I will grant it no sanction and no quarter. I want to see the concept that it is moral and right for people of little ability, or who, through lack of drive or effort, of undeveloped ability, to steal from those who are successful, erased from the earth. I want the concept that those of unremarkable talent or drive can use their need as a weapon, can demand not only sustenance, but tribute, both physical and moral, from their betters eradicated. It is an evil and I will not tolerate it.

I’m not an extremist. I’m simply right.


18 posted on 06/07/2009 7:02:03 PM PDT by Windcatcher (Obama is a COMMUNIST and the MSM is his armband-wearing propaganda arm.)
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Re. racism:

I believe a community and a country have a right & responsibility to preserve its culture, traditions, institutions, & values. These are the things that make a society cohesive & successful. Anyone who wishes to be accepted in that community MUST accept the above; or else expect to live as an interloper & in direct conflict with the community.

I don't know if one race or culture is superior to another. As with anything else, they all likely have some good & some bad. But that is not the point. They all have a right to exist provided they do not threaten the others.

Brits have a right to be British. Pakistanis have a right to be Pakistanis. But if a Brit moves to Pakistan, he is gonna have to conform to local customs, or go back where he came from. Same with a Pakistani. If he & his family move to Britain, they are gonna have to become British. If you are offended by pubs, bacon, & pretty girls in revealing attire, you need to live somewhere else. If democracy, equality of the sexes, & rule of secular law is not to your liking, go somewhere else.

Maintaining a cohesive society is far more important than meeting current labor requirements or giving shelter to so-called refugees.

Multiculturalism is a “Tower of Babel” that ultimately will satisfy no one. If you melt down together all the pretty colors in your crayon box, the resulting mud color does not make pretty pictures. Multicultis ultimately want to create a monoculture based on worship of the state.

Having done some traveling, I have enjoyed experiencing different cultures & tried to give them the respect they deserve. When they come to my country, I expect the same in return, or THEY ARE NOT WELCOME!

19 posted on 06/07/2009 8:56:05 PM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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Ah, the problem is not in agreeing with what he says. It would come in agreeing with what he carefully isn’t saying.

The BNP is very left wing in its economic policies. Renationalisation of key service industries (rail, telecoms, etc); increased protectionism etc.

They also don’t accept black people into membership. There’s also a very strong anti-semitic vibe.


20 posted on 06/08/2009 4:41:06 AM PDT by Vanders9
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