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To: bvw
Yes, it's murder and the murderer is captured. But you are missing how badly our system of government has become rotted. With Obama, rather than a foundation repair construction crew and exterminator of termites and ants, we have taken on a man-usurper who makes the ground wetter for the termites and pours sugar in the walls to attract ants. A leader who exterminates opposition, and gives no access to the construction vehicles.  I don't disagree with this.  I still don't want to branch out exponentially to cover all the ills of our nation on this topic.  To me it would be much more germane, if we were talking about the fascist takeover of the auto manufactureres or perhaps the clear criminality of ACORN and how the left is giving it a pass, or even the eligibility of Obama to be president.  Abortion doesn't lend itself to the connection you made, even if it is very vile in and of it's own.  You see, if that connection was reasoned, then it could have been made under other administrations, mainly because the laws haven't changed with regard to it.  At least that's how I see it.

But you are right. That most severe and worsening governmental rot and the massive social breakdown may seem to most citizens, yourself, and most others, to have at this time little relation to the murder. My words, however are not a call to action. G-d forbid that any person enter that state of personal chaos which gives a man or woman motive to mayhem and murder -- for whatever cause.  I agree with you here also.  And look, I do think abortion is a sign of the times, so don't get me wrong there either.  It's a vile thing and it certainly is a signpost on the road to perdition for our nation.

My words are a warning of the way things stand, but yet are not yet seen to be - by you and by most, still comfortable, still in the inertial flow of a once highly moral culture and laws. A culture where births out of wedlock were uncommon, and abortions rare.  Comfort is relative.  Before the Civil War, folks thought war would set the Union Leadership straight.  They thought rebellion was the way to fix things.  The South suffered greatly from that mindset IMO.  I don't want to see certain mindsets usher in another time of great trouble.  That's why I urge movements and changes under the system we have.  Yes, some day there may come a time when we can't take any longer the despicable decisions of the national leadership, but don't think there wouldn't be an absolutely terrible price paid for that decision by both sides.  Are we there yet?  Absolutely not IMO.

I speak to what I see is happening, what seems to be underway. A time of dangers and breakdowns.   Yes, I believe we are in a time of danger and breakdowns.  I advocate the right get it's act together and become more effective.

What I cannot support, is something that will be used to destroy the reason the Conservatives wish others to see in their advocacy.

The last thing I want anyone to be able to do, is point to the Conservatives and say you better not elect them.  They think assassinating abortion doctors is the way to go.  Just think what they might do to those who believe like you do?

You don't want that either.

100 posted on 06/01/2009 3:04:35 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obama is mentally a child of ten. Just remember that when he makes statements and issues policy.)
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To: DoughtyOne
We are at the state where government despotism, perversion and corruption has become insufferable by good people any longer. I know that from the 40% bastardy rate.

Here's another signal: Philadalphia Twitter Riot last night

Most people are STILL too comfortable to acknowledge how bad -- we are all today, already -- in immediate and imminent danger.

When I wrote "danger and breakdown" -- these were not trivial warnings.

103 posted on 06/01/2009 3:21:24 PM PDT by bvw
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