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Posted on 05/26/2009 8:44:05 PM PDT by cycle of discernment
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To: STARWISE
Thanks for the ping. Still hoping here that somehow, someway, we will learn the truth about what it is that Obama is desperately trying to hide. And, may the MSM rot in hell for their refusal to do their jobs with honesty and integrity.
To: cycle of discernment
A detroit radio station called the Kenyan embassy after the election of Obama. After a a few minutes they get through to the ambassador of Kenya.
The ambassador of Kenya says that obama was born in Kenya and that his birth place has become a national shrine.
Listen to the
recording here
The quote is around 12:35, so if you dont have time to listen to the whole thing, you can jump ahead.
The transcript reads:
Radio Jockey: President elect Obama's birth place over in Kenya -- is that going to be a national spot where he was born
Ambassador Peter Ogego: its already an attraction. his paternal grandmother is still alive
Radio Jockey:But his birth place...they'll put up a marker there
Ambassdor Peter Ogego: It would depend on the government. Its already well known.
Here is an
abridged Utube version of the the radio interview. So you can hear just the relevant parts.
It can be reasonably pointed out that the DJ was trying to entrap the Ambassador and that the Ambassador fell into his trap.
However, if you listen to the long version of the radio interview --youll notice he used the same strategy on two different occasions and the ambassador gently brushed him off.
First, he tried to force the ambassador to sing the Kenyan national anthem. The ambassador referred him to the kenyan website.
Second he tried to push the ambassador into saying something about maybe Kenya becoming the 51st state. Again the ambassador said that Kenya was a sovereign country. ie No.
He used the same technique on the question of Obamas birth place. This time the ambassador did not brush him off. Rather in answer to the question as to whether Obama was born in Kenya --he says "It is well known."
Because the ambassador answered no in the two previous examples -- you can't say that the ambassdor was either a fool or ill advised.
Finally, you might ask well doesn't he know that saying Obama is born in Kenya would make trouble for Obama? The answer there is why should he be concerned? He has heard no suggestion in the mainstream media that there might be a problem there. So to say what is already well known--as he says--would be no problem.
Here is a utube video of Ambassador Peter Ogego speaking at a conference.
Ambassador of Kenya H.E. Peter Ogego To verify that the voice on the radio is Ambassador Ogego-- compare the radio voice with the DJ to the voice on the Utube that goes with Ambassador Ogego. Ambassador Peter Ogego is introduced a bit after minute 18..
They are the same.
Subsequently, the
Kenyan ambassador said that he meant Obama's father was born in Kenya. However, when pressed about Obama's birth place:
"I don't know," he said with a tone of irritation. "You should ask your government. I know his father is Kenyan."
However, that's not what the original transcript suggests. clear="all" /> Finally, there is a
Affidavit of Bishop Ron McRae which is part of the Berg case. The Bishop says pretty much the same thing as the Ambassador.
"Additionally, it is common knowledge throughout both the Christian and Muslim communities in Kenya, that contrary to news media propaganda here in the United States, US Senator Barack Obama is a Muslim and not a Christian, and that he was born in Mombasa, Kenya and not in the State of Hawaii as falsely purported by the Obama campaign for presidency of the United States."
While you cannot impeach the ambassador's character, you can impeach McCrae's character. After all, he's just an itinerant preacher. But McCrae has been to Kenya. Still that makes two people who say that it is common knowledge in Kenya that Obama was born in Kenya.
Then of course there is
a video of Obama's grandmother saying that Obama is born in in her village in Kenya There is a case to be made that Obama mother didn't mean Obama was born in her town but rather that he is a "son of this village". If taken alone, she could well be ignored. However, her take is in keeping with others both high and low.
Again here is a
pdf transcript of Kenyan National Assembly on Nov 5, 2008, the day after Obama was elected. Over and over again there are references to Obama being a "son of the soil" of Kenya and a Kenyan. On page page 3275 there is this passage:
HOUSE SHOULD ADJOURN TO DISCUSS ELECTION OF MR. BARRACK OBAMA
Ms. Odhiambo: On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. It is not on this issue. I stand on a point of order under Standing Order No.20 to seek leave for adjournment of the House to discuss the American presidential election results.
(Applause)
Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the President-elect, Mr. Obama, is a son of the soil of this country. Every other country in this continent is celebrating the Obama win. It is only proper and fitting that the country which he originates from should show the same excitement, pomp and colour.
Again. It is not the one thing. Rather it is the tide.
The American Thinker explains
here why the short form that Obama released is not sufficient for Hawaii. The Obama administration could put this to rest by releasing his long form birth certificate. But he doesn't. Instead of just releasing his long form birth certificate he has
paid his lawyers over 1 million dollars from campaign contributions since Sept 08 to squash the suits brought on the issue. Why bother. The Arnold would have run for president long ago and likely won if he were a "natural born" american. He's not. He's naturalized. So he can't run. And he knows it. (though there were some trial balloons sent up a couple years back about changing the law--that went nowhere.)
Like the Arnold, Obama looks to be a naturalized citizen--but maybe he's not even that.
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posted on
05/26/2009 9:53:06 PM PDT
by
ckilmer
(Phi)
To: cycle of discernment
Here is
Gov (commerce secretary elect)Bill Richardson saying in Spanish that Obama is an "immigrant." (So he understands understands "immigrant" issues.)The context suggests that by "immigrant" bill richardson means "illegal immigrant"
Here in plain English is the
Kenyan Ambassador saying that Obama is born in Kenya.
Obama's own flacks deny that obama was born in Kenya but do acknowledge that he had a dual citizenship up until 1982
from obama's own site factcheck.org by way of fightthesmears
on his dual citizenship at birth
When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdoms dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.s children.
Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.
Someone will want to cache the above web page because it will be taken down eventually.
It is well established that Obama did travel to Indonesia and Pakistan in 1981. In a tape of his speech at this April 6, 2008 San Francisco Fundraiser,
Obama discloses his trip to Pakistan (40:17) when he was in college. On what passport did he travel?
A last arguement for baraks people might be that of course the Kenyans would have an interest in claiming that obama was a "son of the soil" both as a matter of pride and as a matter of bucks coming their way. However, if Obama was not born in Kenya -- then why wouldn't Obama release his original long form birth certificate. Instead of just releasing his long form birth certificate he has
paid his lawyers 1 million dollars from campaign contributions since Sept 08 to squash the suits brought on the issue.
Exactly What IS a Natural Born Citizen?
The thing has become a joke in washington. d
Joe Biden Joked at the Gridiron Dinner in March 09.
After mentioning one of the Republican speakers for the evening, Arnold Schwarzenegger, was born in Austria and that one of the Democratic speakers, Michigan Gov. Jennifer Granholm, was born in Canada, Biden chortled: "Folks, this is going to be Lou Dobbs' worst nightmare. "
From there, Biden transitioned to the birth certificate controversy.
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posted on
05/26/2009 9:54:14 PM PDT
by
ckilmer
(Phi)
To: ckilmer
Bill Richardson said on video which ran on youtube and was the subject of a thread here that Obama was an immigrant. He is the highest ranking American to make such a declaration.
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posted on
05/26/2009 9:54:44 PM PDT
by
nufsed
(Release the birth certificate, school and passport records.)
To: cycle of discernment; Polarik
Forensic experts have testified that the Certification of Live Birth is a forgery; written on a laser printer, when such printers were not available in 1961. Huh? He botched that one. Talk about self-defeating.
To: cycle of discernment
Thank you for this material.
Good letter, although I wish this attorney had not mentioned the travel ban to Pakistan. There seems to be credible evidence the matter was limited to a warning and did not include a ban.
I predict Fox will begin to address this issue.
Murdoch is successful in a number of ways and he is almost certainly financially secure.
At his age he has family members, his principles, his reputation and his legacy to be concerned about; the rest is peanuts.
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posted on
05/26/2009 10:08:01 PM PDT
by
frog in a pot
(Socialism is inconsistent with the Constitution and is one of the "domestic enemies".)
To: frog in a pot
[background research surrounding the entangled BO birth mess from another blog]
Below are two official emails that dispute the public version of Obamas Birth and his mothers marriage to BHO Sr.
From: pubrec@u.washington.edu [mailto:pubrec@u.washington.edu]
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008
Subject: Re: Stanley Ann Dunham 1960 to 1970 class registration
Ms. Stanley Ann Dunham (BHO IIs mom) was enrolled at the University of Washington for:
Autumn 1961
Winter 1962
Spring 1962
The records responsive to your request from the University of Washington are above as provided by the Public Disclosure Laws of Washington State. This concludes the Universitys response to your Public Records request. Please feel free to contact our office if you have any questions or concerns.
Madolyne Lawson
Office of Public Records
206-543-9180
From: Stuart Lau [mailto:stuartl@hawaii.edu]
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008
Subject: Re: Inquiry
The University of Hawaii at Manoa is only able to provide the following information for Stanley Ann Dunham:
Dates of attendance:
Fall 1960 (First day of instruction 9/26/1960)
Spring 1963 - Summer 1966
Fall 1972 - Fall 1974
Summer 1976
Spring 1978
Fall 1984 - Summer 1992
Degrees awarded:
BA - Mathematics, Summer 1967 (August 6, 1967)
MA - Anthropology, Fall 1983 (December 18, 1983)
PhD - Anthropology, Summer 1992 (August 9, 1992)
Sincerely, Stuart Lau
****************************************
Stuart Lau
University Registrar
Office of Admissions and Records
University of Hawaii at Manoa
Ph: (808) 956-8010
****************************************
Commentary on University Emails:
For the BHO II Hawaiian Aug 4 1961 COLB to be accurate the following improbable events needed to occur:
1 month after starting classes, Stanley Ann Dunham, Baracks mom, at age 17, got pregnant by the only black African man on the entire chain of Hawaiian islands.
2 months after getting pregnant, she drops out of college.
3 months after getting pregnant, she marries BHO Sr.
10 months after her first day at the U of HI, she delivers BHO II and immediately leaves her parents, her new husband, and her home, to fly alone with a newborn 2800 miles to Seattle to start college at the U of W.
Stanley Ann Dunham does not return to Hawaii until AFTER BHO Sr left the islands for Harvard.
This is an implausible series of events made even more nefarious because Obama II in his 2 bio books never mentions his mom left Hawaii when she was married to BHO Sr, nor does he mention she was in Washington State during this time.
Baracks sister was born in Indonesia, and has a COLB from Hawaii like Obama II. She is NOT a Natural Born Citizen of the USA as required by the Constitution to become president
and Obama probably isnt either.
To: BuckeyeTexan
I think the forensic electronic analysis that detected 2007 photoshop technology ( in this “1961” artifact) is far more damaging.
To: 2CAVTrooper
CIA and the Israelis
That is what I think it will take - an internal leak from one of the many spook orgs or a challenge by a foreign Govt. The foreign Govt will have to be one of the friendlies - it will not come from any of the terrorists friendly Govts who all love the "lets sit down and talk" boy President.
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posted on
05/26/2009 10:18:21 PM PDT
by
Cheerio
(Barack Hussein 0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
To: cycle of discernment
Did you intend to address your #27 to me?
My #26 to you thanked you for sharing John D. Hemenway’s letter.
I did not expect the material in #27 (we haven’t been talking).
Of course, the material does raise a number of issues.
I thought at one time we had a copy of the documents from O Sr.’s divorce from Ann.
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posted on
05/26/2009 10:24:13 PM PDT
by
frog in a pot
(Socialism is inconsistent with the Constitution and is one of the "domestic enemies".)
To: cycle of discernment
FoxNews in the tank with obama? Who would have guessed? Me, for one. Oreilly makes it very evident.
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posted on
05/26/2009 11:41:55 PM PDT
by
taxesareforever
(Quick justice for the senseless killing of Marine Lance Cpl. Robert Crutchfield.)
To: RoseofTexas
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posted on
05/26/2009 11:50:13 PM PDT
by
Nipfan
(The desire to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it - H L Mencken)
To: taxesareforever
Ever since that loofah sexual thing,O'Reilly has been very different. That or somebody has something on him.Glenn Beck is the one to listen to now not O'Reilly. He's almost like Inside Edition to some extent now.
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posted on
05/27/2009 12:54:47 AM PDT
by
red irish
(Gods Children in the womb are to be loved too!)
To: cycle of discernment
What are they hiding? If there is no problem and nothing to hide, why wouldn’t they just produce the certificate???
To: BuckeyeTexan
Why is it again the FR finds and posts these items like dan rathers forged printing lies, and now this. laser printer forgery. And some people wonder why I stopped buying a newspaper.
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posted on
05/27/2009 3:15:58 AM PDT
by
reefdiver
(So how's that HOPE & CHANGE working out for ya ?)
To: cycle of discernment
To: Bullish
Negative. The authorities can’t ignore this issue forever. It’s the law.
To: cycle of discernment
Forensic experts have testified that the Certification of Live Birth is a forgery; written on a laser printer, when such printers were not available in 1961. Misstatements like this are not good for our side. The Certification of Live Birth is an after the fact document, and the one in question was supposedly issued a year or two ago. My understanding is that all such documents are computer generated.
ML/NJ
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posted on
05/27/2009 5:42:35 AM PDT
by
ml/nj
To: cycle of discernment
What will you bet that Mossad has a copy of the REAL certificate. It will come out soon...
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posted on
05/27/2009 5:45:05 AM PDT
by
April Lexington
(Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
To: cycle of discernment
The courts are not interested in rocking the boat. They feel this is a problem for the other two branches to solve. Separation of powers. The only party strong enough to challenge Obama is the military because they have take an oath to uphold and PROTECT the constitution. As FAKE CIC, Obama has no authority to give orders. Biden is in command because McWhatshisname, the senile fool from Arizona failed to challenge Obama's candidacy before the election or before the electoral college met. So, he's out. Its now Biden the insane with Pelosi on deck.
We need the Generals to either challenge Obama in court (waste of time) or just take over the government as care takers until the next election...
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posted on
05/27/2009 5:54:19 AM PDT
by
April Lexington
(Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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