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Democrats hang fire on guns {Dems feel forced to vote for gun bills]
Washington Times ^ | May 22, 2009 | Editorial

Posted on 05/22/2009 11:33:55 AM PDT by richardb72

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To: ElkGroveDan
Who hasn't had the experience of, say buying some guns a few months ago, and finding out you couldn't get any ammo for at least some of them. And then privately selling them to get something else in a more popular caliber?

Or, selling some of your guns, to afford ammo for the ones you have left?

Let's see a show of hands – who HASN”T had this happen to them?, or a friend or someone you know, or someone you heard about......

IMHO, there's A LOT of that going around these days, all that data from the 4473's might not be that accurate, ya know....

41 posted on 05/22/2009 1:03:02 PM PDT by HammerT (Buy them before they BAN them!!!!!!)
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To: SirFishalot
My fear is that Obama will sign a UN treaty which will effectively ban gun ownership here altogether, totally bypassing the Congress.

It wouldn't be valid. Treaties are only valid if they are made under the authority of the United States (i.e., under powers legally delegated). This is made very clear in the Federal papers (33, IIRC), and there are more than enough quotes by the founders to prove original intent.

42 posted on 05/22/2009 1:06:00 PM PDT by Technogeeb (The only good Russian is a dead Russian. Rest in Peace, Solzhenitsyn.)
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To: HammerT

From what I’ve heard,

some guy has been going around buying up guns from everyone.

I think his name was Bill, or Fred, he had a beard, and wore a real-tree camo hat.


43 posted on 05/22/2009 1:08:44 PM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, Bowman later)
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To: MrB

Yes I need to read UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES again. I remember how Henry took on the issues one by one. Never thought it could get like that but we seem to be on the path.


44 posted on 05/22/2009 1:31:14 PM PDT by mcshot (The line has been drawn in the sand: It's good vs evil.)
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To: dfwgator
Rock it, baby. LOL.
45 posted on 05/22/2009 1:31:53 PM PDT by AnnaZ (I keep 2 magnums in my desk.One's a gun and I keep it loaded.Other's a bottle and it keeps me loaded)
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To: mcshot

Not too long ago, I just read The Turner Diaries.
Now, their is a lot of nasty anti-semitic and racist stuff in there on the part of the protagonist (Turner),

but the descriptions of the government’s actions, and the liberal excusers of those actions, are entirely prescient. It was written in the 70’s.


46 posted on 05/22/2009 1:37:16 PM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, Bowman later)
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To: AnnaZ

IMHO one of the Stones’ best songs, ever.


47 posted on 05/22/2009 1:49:39 PM PDT by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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To: MrB

You know, I’ve heard that myself....


48 posted on 05/22/2009 1:59:44 PM PDT by HammerT (Buy them before they BAN them!!!!!!)
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To: green iguana

“He can’t bypass Congress - treaties are ratified by the Senate. Ain’t gonna happen.”

He can’t by-pass the senate. You have more faith in the senate than I do, there’s only a hand full of conservatives in the senate.


49 posted on 05/22/2009 2:47:49 PM PDT by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: green iguana
http://www.ammoman.com/
http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/
these are good reliable companies
i dont know if they have what you want or not
, i would advise buying a cz52 on gunbroker.com from a seller with a good feedback and then get ammo for 139 dollars delivered for 1260 rounds , gun and ammo for under 400 dollars , even if you buy the cz52 just to practice and save your main ammo thats hard to get . good luck , im betting were gonna need it
50 posted on 05/22/2009 3:44:08 PM PDT by bandit123 (guns cause crime , like a fire extinguisher causes fire , like a spoon makes rosie fat)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

I notice that my local gun emporium has MANY stripped RRA lowers, and quite a few built lowers, at pre-0bama prices. Ammo is still outrageously expensive, but very available, at least at that store.


51 posted on 05/22/2009 3:49:04 PM PDT by Hardastarboard (I long for the days when advertisers didn't constantly ask about the health of my genital organs.)
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To: ElkGroveDan
No kidding. Small arms rounds are nearly impossible to find and that's driving up the prices. I just paid $50 for a box of .45s!

Heh. And I was complaining about $37.50 for a box of .44 mag...

52 posted on 05/22/2009 3:56:44 PM PDT by roamer_1 (It takes a (Kenyan) village to raise an idiot.)
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To: devistate one four

With who is in power today, your time in Hell has yet to begin.


53 posted on 05/22/2009 4:09:48 PM PDT by wastedyears (Iron Maiden's gonna get ya, no matter how far!)
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To: devistate one four
I’ve heard the secret service refuses to take bullet for zero and a lot worse.

Now that's something

54 posted on 05/22/2009 4:15:43 PM PDT by wastedyears (Iron Maiden's gonna get ya, no matter how far!)
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To: MrB
The idea is to see ‘em coming, avoid them, and go after who sent them.

Let's not forget the presstitutes who aid and abet all of the above by allowing them to operate in the shadows. The "Fourth Branch of government" needs a good squirt of Roundup.

55 posted on 05/22/2009 6:01:01 PM PDT by Charles Martel ("Endeavor to persevere...")
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To: Hardastarboard
I notice that my local gun emporium has MANY stripped RRA lowers, and quite a few built lowers, at pre-0bama prices. Ammo is still outrageously expensive, but very available, at least at that store.

That's good, maybe the parts suppliers are beginning to catch up. I've seen new CavArms polymer AR lowers in stock on a few of their dealers' websites, too. Those aren't everyone's cup of tea, but they do have the advantage of high-speed production.

I've found it is still tough to get the smaller bits and pieces needed to complete an AR, though. That is what has driven sales of the less-common .223 rifles, like the Kel-Tec, the Armalite AR-180b and the Bushmaster Carbon-15 series.

56 posted on 05/22/2009 6:11:53 PM PDT by Charles Martel ("Endeavor to persevere...")
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To: antisocial
You have more faith in the senate than I do

I don't have any faith in the Senate. I have faith in the Senators wanting to get reelected.

With them knowing that they won't get reelected if they vote for a treaty such as this, I have full faith in the Senate.

57 posted on 05/24/2009 5:39:50 PM PDT by green iguana
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To: AnnaZ
They're talking about you... lol.

It was just a matter of time;-)

I love that song!

58 posted on 05/25/2009 7:32:34 PM PDT by HangFire (I'm only shooting black guns until they come up with something darker...)
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