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A Rising Anti-Government Tide
WaPo ^ | 5/22/2009 | Newt Gingrich

Posted on 05/22/2009 5:35:30 AM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies

Americans should look carefully at the anti-politician, anti-government mood exhibited in California this week. Just as Proposition 13 and the anti-tax movement of 1978 were the forerunners of the Reagan presidential victory, so the results of Tuesday's vote are a harbinger of things to come.

The repudiation of the California establishment in the series of initiative defeats could hardly have been more decisive. Five taxing and spending measures were rejected by 62.6 to 66.4 percent of the voters. That is a consistent majority of enormous potential. An even larger majority, 73.9 percent, approved the proposition limiting elected officials' salaries when there is a deficit.

This vote is the second great signal that the American people are getting fed up with corrupt politicians, arrogant bureaucrats, greedy interests and incompetent, destructive government.

The elites ridiculed or ignored the first harbinger of rebellion, the recent tea parties. While it will be harder to ignore this massive anti-tax, anti-spending vote, they will attempt to do just that.

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TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California; US: District of Columbia; US: New York
KEYWORDS: antigov; calbudget; calinitiatives; gingrich; lping; newt; newtgingrich; prop13
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
Meantime, you are one of the people of California, and, as we all know, the people have the kind of government they deserve. You Californians owe all Americans a big apology for allowing this to happen.

And then you made the above statement, implying only Californians deserve what they get, demanding and apology no less, as you completely ignored what the *American* people have for Congress, Senate and who they have as a President.

You're comments are are weak, deceptive, selective, and self serving at best.

101 posted on 05/24/2009 11:31:01 AM PDT by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2
Again, you clearly attempted to suggest here that millions of illegal aliens have nothing to do with taxes or big government.

Repeating a lie does not make it more true. I post that as the unequaled expert on what I was attempting on any particular occasion.

102 posted on 05/24/2009 12:03:33 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ("men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters." -- Edmund Burke)
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To: dragnet2
as you completely ignored what the *American* people have for Congress, Senate and who they have as a President.

From my post 95 above: 'All Americans deserve Obama, since all Americans either supported him or failed to prevent his election.'

As a matter of curiosity, do you make a religion of lying, or is it just your standard practice?

103 posted on 05/24/2009 12:09:21 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ("men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters." -- Edmund Burke)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

The internet makes a great witness:

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Lucius Cornelius Sulla:

Meantime, you are one of the people of California, and, as we all know, the people have the kind of government they deserve. You Californians owe all Americans a big apology for allowing this to happen.

67 posted on Saturday, May 23, 2009 1:45:13 AM by Lucius Cornelius Sulla — Edmund Burke)
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104 posted on 05/24/2009 12:43:45 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

Lucius Cornelius Sulla:

That was not the subject he was addressing, he was talking about the tax, big government issue.

67 posted on Saturday, May 23, 2009 1:45:13 AM by Lucius Cornelius Sulla
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105 posted on 05/24/2009 12:45:10 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2

Yes, I posted all of those true statements.


106 posted on 05/24/2009 1:37:19 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ("men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters." -- Edmund Burke)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

lol..


107 posted on 05/24/2009 1:37:51 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2

You really should get a better class of opiates.


108 posted on 05/24/2009 1:39:26 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ("men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters." -- Edmund Burke)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

Great article except for the next-to-last sentence. There’s not the least bit of chance that the Democrat Party is going to ‘switch sides’.


109 posted on 05/24/2009 1:45:25 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
The repudiation of the California establishment in the series of initiative defeats could hardly have been more decisive.

This vote is the second great signal that the American people are getting fed up with corrupt politicians, arrogant bureaucrats, greedy interests and incompetent, destructive government.

In reality, you should be thanking those in California that annihilated these punitive big government actions, and put on the biggest tax revolt in modern memory.

110 posted on 05/24/2009 1:46:07 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2
In reality, you should be thanking those in California that annihilated these punitive big government actions, and put on the biggest tax revolt in modern memory.

Why would I do that? Newt Gingrich did, and you've been attacking him ever since.

111 posted on 05/24/2009 1:51:17 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ("men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters." -- Edmund Burke)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
Why would I do that? Newt Gingrich did, and you've been attacking him ever since.

I pointed out that Newt failed to point out what Californians did in the 1990s, when they overwhelmingly passed prop 187, which would have saved the tax payers tens of billions in regards to ending tax paid services for illegal aliens.

Of course you know this. And since I made that statement early up thread, you have made nothing but ignorant comments.

Outside of failing to mention Cal prop 187, it's a good factual article.

Of course you know this to.

But feel free to continue playing stupid.

112 posted on 05/24/2009 1:57:04 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2

Speaking of playing stupid, there is not much that is more stupid than criticizing a speech for what it is not about. Now that we have established that you are a Newt fan, my work here is done.

Live long and prosper!


113 posted on 05/24/2009 2:03:21 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ("men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters." -- Edmund Burke)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
there is not much that is more stupid than criticizing a speech for what it is not about.

There ya go again.

You cannot even mention California, taxes and big government in the same sentence without bringing up the fact that illegal aliens have cost CA and the *rest* of this country many tens of billions in taxes.

Of course you know this

But continue to stick you're head in the ground, and play stupid.

114 posted on 05/24/2009 2:07:12 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2
You cannot even mention California, taxes and big government in the same sentence without bringing up the fact that illegal aliens have cost CA and the *rest* of this country many tens of billions in taxes

Another error: "California has a disastrously big government, which has led the politicians to raise taxes to ridiculous levels." See, I CAN do it!

115 posted on 05/24/2009 2:16:58 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ("men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters." -- Edmund Burke)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
The repudiation of the California establishment in the series of initiative defeats could hardly have been more decisive.

This vote is the second great signal that the American people are getting fed up with corrupt politicians, arrogant bureaucrats, greedy interests and incompetent, destructive government.

Continue to ignore the facts above.

California has a disastrously big government, which has led the politicians to raise taxes to ridiculous levels.

Pisst..Get yourself updated, your living in the past.

Just keep pretending it's business as usual, and last weeks election among other historical elections in Cal, never occurred.

As if your own Federal Government has not been a disaster, and has balanced budgets and controlled spending.

Try sticking your head deeper in the sand.

At least we here in California, did something about it, and won round 1 in a total KO, while you stand barking on the sidelines in Florida.

116 posted on 05/24/2009 2:29:47 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

But, but, but... Lindsay Gramnesty, John McLame (& gross daughter), Colon Bowell and Arlen Sphincter all say our only salvation is to be more like the Dimocraps.


117 posted on 05/24/2009 2:32:27 PM PDT by Enoughofthissocialism
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To: Daveinyork
I wish Newt had paid attention to the smaller government tide when he was Speaker.

Newts a Johnny come lately...When he sees people have finally had a belly full of government, he grabs the banner and wants to lead the parade.

118 posted on 05/24/2009 2:34:11 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Lancey Howard
It is a fact that the American public were conned by the 'rat-infested media into blaming Republicans for the gov shutdown. TV had stories about all the poor folk who would be harmed by the mean old Gingrich and his rightwing crackpot hooligans of the GOP.

The PR battle was lost before it started, and Newt had to call off the fight to avert even greater political ctastrophe.

Ask the next ten people you meet, Who caused the gov shutdown back in the '90s? If they even know it happend, 8 or 9 will say "Republicans."

119 posted on 05/24/2009 2:42:38 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: dragnet2
California has a disastrously big government, which has led the politicians to raise taxes to ridiculous levels.

This is a sentence of a character you said I could not write, but there it is, a sentence, and I wrote it, thus falsifying your statement. It is also a factually correct sentence. Your ranting does not change that. Take some more drugs and calm down.

120 posted on 05/24/2009 2:45:26 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ("men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters." -- Edmund Burke)
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