[LibertyRocks]

Thanks for mentioning that - I forgot to say why that was an important reference.

I agree with you completely that Islam has shaped his worldview - more than the Communists like his mother and grandparents wished I believe... I truly believe that when Obama came of age and “took back” his original MUSLIM name citing “getting in touch” with his father and his history, he then rejected the Communist teachings, in favor of the Islamic World Caliphate idea, personally.

You mention him not being a practicing Muslim. You probably already know this, but I think it’s worth mentioning here...

If he is REALLY a Christian, then where are the fatwas calling for his death as an apostate?

If he was REALLY a Christian why would he still base his plans upon Muslim principles.

AND, probably the BIGGEST thing is the bow to the Saudi King — a CHRISTIAN would NOT bow in submission (a salaam) to the Saudi King who is the “Keeper of the Holy Places” (like Mecca) — the Saudi King is to Islam, as the Pope is to Catholicism. [And certainly no American President should EVER do that. In doing so as a representative of our country, he put ALL of us UNDER Islamic rule — even if he’s still keeping up appearances so to speak.]

I don’t think there is anything that could convince me that Obama is NOT a Muslim at this point, really. Just the fact that the entire Middle East PROFESSES that he IS a Muslim STILL - Farrakhan said he was “the Messiah”, Islamic leaders like Quaddafi (SP?), also professed to know that he was a Muslim and NOT a Christian/Infidel.

Also a point of interest here — the Muslim religion allows for a practice called taqiyya. It is the practice of lying to conceal your true agenda as a Muslim (which is the establishment of a worldwide Islamic Caliphate), and a jihadist (fighting a holy war for Allah). Obama is VERY clever, but things just don’t add up when it comes to Obama in any way, shape, or form.

He’s either lying to the Communists, or he’s lying to the Muslims — one or the other... Or, the “worst” theory I’ve got is that since Russia is the one helping Iran with their nuclear program they are ALL in it together... (Probably with each side thinking they will be able to overtake the others once the U.S. is out of the way)...

I believe the truth is either something along the lines of what I have mentioned above, or Obama thinks he can fool them ALL, and truly believes in his delusions of grandeur that he can ‘save us all’ — in other words a Fascist who has combined the elements of Islamic Oppression, and Communism, but believes HE himself will eventually be hailed as a hero and in his delusion of grandeur he sees himself leading the WORLD. He IS that narcissistic, arrogant, and I think he truly believes he is “too big to fail”... [I don’t think he’s read Proverbs even though again he professes to be a Christian - his attitude and the fruits of his actions show him NOT to be a Christian...]

[Quix]

WELL PUT.

THX.

[happygrl]

I concur with what you have written here.

There was a reason why I included the description "practicing."

There is no evidence that he attends a Mosque, or prays five times a day, or practices any of the so-called "five pillars."

This may be because he is practicing taqiyya, as you suggest.

I cannot know what he holds in his heart, but the evidence is overwhelming that he has been shaped by Islam, even if he is not currently, overtly practicing it.

[mojitojoe]

I don’t think there is anything that could convince me that Obama is NOT a Muslim at this point, really. ________________ I agree. All of the facts point to him NOT being a Christian. He's Muslim and he's a liar. Trinity had Muslims that attended. It's not a Christian Church. It's a black theology church, big difference. I think The Kenyan's religion is Muslim, his political views, Communism. It really hit home when he never went back to church after he left Trinity. He went on Easter of 2009 for a photo op. It's been FIVE months and they still can't find a church in DC? Give me a break. They attended Trinity every Sunday for years, now they don't go at all? I think they are all practicing Muslims. He probably has his little prayer rug set up in the White House. When they did go to church on Easter Sunday, their faces said a lot. Michelle didn't like being forced to go to church to make the Kenyan look like something he is not.

[jslade]

If he is REALLY a Christian, then where are the fatwas calling for his death as an apostate?

This is the key IMHO.