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To: smokingfrog

Is all that hoarding out of fear - or are there other factors at work ??


4 posted on 05/20/2009 5:08:12 PM PDT by mrmeangenes
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To: mrmeangenes

Don’t know if it’s the same there, but here in Albuquerque the shelves are bare. Almost no ammo anywhere. Scary stuff. Can’t even get powder for reloading shotgun shells.


8 posted on 05/20/2009 5:12:30 PM PDT by refermech
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To: mrmeangenes

It is not hoarding. It is stockpiling. Hoarding is something that technically cannot be done until AFTER something is rationed.

Like when people were preparing beforehand for Y2K by stockpiling food and water. It isn’t hoarding. Preparedness is never hoarding. Trying to buy all the stuff up AFTER a disaster or something like that, THAT is hoarding.

And there are other factors at work. The demand for, and price of metals increasing is one. Trying to purchase at the current cost, expecting it to go higher later. People purchasing a valuable commodity for the future is another.


10 posted on 05/20/2009 5:14:52 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: mrmeangenes

It’s also a better investment than stocks or bonds when the SHTF.


18 posted on 05/20/2009 5:23:43 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective.)
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To: mrmeangenes

I am hoarding out of a plan.


19 posted on 05/20/2009 5:28:37 PM PDT by Gator113 (Weak-coward-racist-white hating-lying-traitor= Surrender Monkey in Chief-B. Hussein Obama...)
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To: mrmeangenes
It's not hording, it's creating a buffer.

In this day and age of just in time supply, those who feel at risk and can afford to, will build their own "use buffer" to eliminate any shock of a break in the supply chain.

I do the same thing with Diesel fuel to get through the summer holiday weekends and hurricane season.

24 posted on 05/20/2009 5:34:51 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Big Ears + Big Spending --> BigEarMarx, the man behind TOTUS)
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To: mrmeangenes
Is all that hoarding out of fear - or are there other factors at work ??

The article calls it "stockpiling", correctly IMHO. Ammo goes fast. And you can use it for barter as well. Not my intent, but it's still possible.

33 posted on 05/20/2009 5:44:09 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: mrmeangenes
"Is all that hoarding out of fear - or are there other factors at work ??

Based on customer conversation at the two stores I frequently hang out at, it is 99% oscumbo.

The only other reasonable factor is economic-collapse protection. This factor is what caused me to stock up in the late 90's (and, again, after 9/11). Gold and 9mm for purchasing power. For everything else, 7.62, .223, .22, .45, and 12ga.

It wasn't until 2007, when it became obvious that the marxists would win the 2008 election that I began adding to that existing stock. Fortunately I reached my strategic goal before the ammo shortage and concurrent price hikes.

50 posted on 05/20/2009 5:57:00 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: mrmeangenes
Is all that hoarding out of fear - or are there other factors at work ??

You never know when the Gates of Hell will open ... What's your Zombie Plan???


52 posted on 05/20/2009 6:02:45 PM PDT by CapnJack
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To: mrmeangenes

It’s not fear for many of us but preparation.


56 posted on 05/20/2009 6:05:45 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Socialism is the belief that most people are better off if everyone was equally poor and miserable.)
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To: mrmeangenes
Is all that hoarding out of fear

No, we are unafraid.

If they could be without fear at Valley Forge and at Yorktown, we would rightly be ashamed to show our faces if we were afraid now.

64 posted on 05/20/2009 6:19:15 PM PDT by Jim Noble (They are willing to kill for socialism...but not to die for it.)
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To: mrmeangenes

Apparently this BHO’s only stimulus plan that has worked... albeit unintentionally. :)


109 posted on 05/20/2009 7:59:15 PM PDT by TeleStraightShooter (Barack Benito Obama heads the most shocking "end justifies the means" gang of thugs/ administration)
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To: mrmeangenes

There is no conspiracy here.
Demand is simply outstripping supply. There are really only a few manufacturers of components (bullets, primers, shells, powder), there are really only a few manufacturers of completed ammo, and they are all running full-bore non-stop 24/7. There is only so much manufacturing capacity. Any attempt to increase capacity will probably cost an enormous amount, and only come on-line when the bubble bursts & demand settles back down to normal (if not much less, as personal stockpiles start getting used up & sold off). Between two wars and a large fraction of the population turning paychecks into cases of ammo, demand is simply huge. It’s just another economic bubble at work: demand & prices getting into a race until the bubble pops.

As for “why?”: ammo is one of the few durable investments one can truly own. There is inherent value therein, it has continuing demand (being a consumable), it is shelf-stable & durable, supply is fairly stable, the value per volume is reasonably high, it can easily be traded in quantities comparable to daily costs, and the price will likely continue upwards indefinitely. In a time when few other investments are viable, ammo will hold up both physically & financially in the long term.


129 posted on 05/20/2009 8:24:05 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (John Galt was exiled.)
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To: mrmeangenes
mrmeangenes said: "Is all that hoarding out of fear - or are there other factors at work ??"

I'm reminded of a scene with Nicolas Cage in "Red Rock West". Cage hides on top of a truckers cab and startles the trucker. The trucker stops the truck, grabs a large revolver, and points it at Cage. Cage says, "I'm sorry if I scared you". The trucker responds, "DO I LOOK SCARED?".

In short, you might consider that some are motivated by ANGER and not FEAR. Anger that our Constitution is just so much toilet paper in the hands of the Democrats. Anger that what passes for "rights" now are mostly "entitlements", given not by our Creator, but by government. Anger that the rule of law will now be sacrificed for "empathy" on our Supreme Court.

230 posted on 05/21/2009 3:52:07 PM PDT by William Tell
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To: mrmeangenes
Is all that hoarding out of fear - or are there other factors at work ??

Fear. Or you could call it a realistic assessment of our new ruler. If I could afford, and get, 5 times what I have on hand, I'd buy it tomorrow.

The real question is this: When they come for our weapons and ammunition, and they will, what will be our response?

245 posted on 05/21/2009 6:14:32 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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