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To: GunRunner
"Several years ago you claimed that the Gravity Probe B was evidence for a geocentric solar system based on the fact that no frame dragging was found. You were proven wrong."

Whether Gravity Probe B actually found frame-dragging is unlikely and has supposedly only recently been 'found' with a statistical uncertainty of 15% that does not include all systematic effects. That is far short of proving me wrong. Unfortunately, you seem incapable of understanding that.

I was simply showing you that (even giving you the benefit of the doubt and assuming that frame-dragging was found) geocentrism is completely consistent w/ GR according to Einstein, Hoyle, Born and Ellis.

Clearly you want to turn the issue into a debate over whether Gravity Probe B found frame-dragging because you think that has some impact on the geocentric argument. It doesn't but you lack the critical-thinking skills to recognize that. IOW, geocentrism cannot lose wrt frame-dragging. Only GR can be falsified. Or not if you read some of the responses on the links.

At any rate, if frame-dragging exists, geocentrism is still consistent w/ GR. If it doesn't exist, there is still no evidence for the assumed motion of the earth and GR is falsified. Understand now or are you still lost?

"Geocentrists are one level above the Flat Earth Society and just below Scientology."

It looks like you are the one who is one level above the Flat Earth Society and just below Scientology.

"The ridiculousness of your claims make some anti-evolutionist folks even doubt your existence; they claim pro-Darwin folks made you up to make them look bad! See post 54."

Let's see. You have gone from 1) saying the model was not at either link, to 2) finding the model, to 3) incorrectly claiming the Ernst Mach's geometric proof of the equivalence of geocentrism and geokineticism was wrong, to 4) incorrectly claiming that GR invalidates geocentrism, to 5) incorrectly claiming that 'frame-dragging' invalidates geocentrism, to 6) unsupported assertions, to 7) the fallacy of appeal to popular opinion. Only one thing is certain, though often wrong you are never in doubt.

The sad thing is that the evolutionists aren't ashamed of you at all.

310 posted on 05/14/2009 2:39:15 PM PDT by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: GourmetDan
At any rate, if frame-dragging exists,

It does. So I assume you will no longer use Gravity Probe B as evidence like you did dozens of times last year.

You still didn't answer as to what kind of Geocentrist you are: Tycho or Ptolemy.

326 posted on 05/14/2009 2:53:46 PM PDT by GunRunner
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