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Sad to say, the level of knowledge in conservatism is only slightly greater than that of the liberal left. Conservatives know there is a stark difference, but they know too little about how to fight back - but, worse than that, they have little desire to fight back in effective ways. That must change, and it can - easily. If you want to know more, don't hesitate to drop me a line in Freepmail.
1 posted on 05/10/2009 1:08:11 AM PDT by Ron C.
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Thanks for the post Ron C. I look forward to reading it.


2 posted on 05/10/2009 1:09:32 AM PDT by GOP Poet
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Marked for a later read, it looks like it could be very good... already took my sleeping pill........ fading ........ feeling light headed..... kinda funny.... kinda drunk.... slipping... drifting... fuzzy head.... I’m gone...... zzzzzzzzzz ZZZZZZZZZZ


5 posted on 05/10/2009 1:43:22 AM PDT by Gator113 (Weak-coward-racist-white hating-lying-traitor= Surrender Monkey in Chief-B. Hussein Obama...)
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To: Ron C.

Later Bttt


6 posted on 05/10/2009 1:56:57 AM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (Life is but a big granola bar.)
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To: Ron C.

The US Constitution is in many ways shorter, and far more to the point.

Please do not invoke Jims good name upon that which would take longer to read. I skimed it to be sure, absolute snozze fest.
Ron C. fire us up, or tell us something that we don’t already know. and be concise and short about it.


7 posted on 05/10/2009 1:59:47 AM PDT by ChetNavVet (Build It, and they won't come!)
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"But, note well - in the early 1900’s Democrats were the conservatives, while Republicans were the first to drift off into ‘progressive’ socialist politics."

I'd say there were equal numbers in both parties. But the Dems were actively trying to purge Conservatives as long ago as the 1890s, under Socialists like IL Gov. John Altgeld (probably the most radical Governor in that state's history - and so far to the left that the ostensible "Progressive" Theodore Roosevelt lambasted him from the right, effectively calling him a Parisian Communist) and their attempt to take over the party with William Jennings Bryan. They wanted to make sure Grover Cleveland types never would become President again under the Dem banner. None ever did.

8 posted on 05/10/2009 2:16:57 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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Well reasoned. The GOP is the best available vehicle for conservative political activism. Whining and carping from the sidelines gains nothing.


9 posted on 05/10/2009 3:21:22 AM PDT by Rockingham
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It only takes a spark to get a fire going!


10 posted on 05/10/2009 3:30:54 AM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore (Conservatives obey the rules. Leftists cheat. Who probably has the political advantage?)
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Third parties have done nothing to prosper conservatism, throughout this nation’s history. In fact, the few that have claimed conservatism (and largely aren’t) have repeatedly succeeded in doing nothing more than electing Democrats

Amen Brother. Someone needs to get Glenn "the Clown" Beck to understand that.

Hes trying his hardest to use Fox News to start up a new Libertarian push.


11 posted on 05/10/2009 3:30:55 AM PDT by DainBramage
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BTTT


12 posted on 05/10/2009 3:54:06 AM PDT by jeepers creepers
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Either true conservatives help keep the party conservative – or you fail the final test of conservatism itself.

Your self appointed litmus test for Conservatism leaves a lot to be desired. Your post is based on the false premise the socialists in the OP are the RINO's(minority). Party leadership has purposely moved to the socialist left at the expense of Conservatism in order to expand the voter base. Consequently Conservatives are the RINO's. Continually returning to the party that has repeatedly abandon Conservative principles and made Conservatives the minority is the political version of battered wife syndrome. It couldn't be more illogical. They have merged with the socialist Democrats to become one big socialist Republicrat party system.

Conservatives will only be able to restore the two party system by supporting a Conservative party based on strong Conservative principles.

Conservatives could easily make that all happen once again – if enough of them decide they really want to become aggressive at making a political difference

If restoring Conservatism to the OP is so easy then it should have and could have been done long ago. The fact is it wasn't done because the party doesn't want it to happen. Conservatives need to look past the party name and accept the fact it is time to form their own party instead of remaining in one where they are merely a wing of the party. Your post doesn't pass the smell test.
13 posted on 05/10/2009 3:59:13 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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Conservatives know there is a stark difference, but they know too little about how to fight back - but, worse than that, they have little desire to fight back in effective ways.

I believe these problems have their roots within the very concept of Conservatism. Among the definitions of a "conservative" are being cautious, avoiding excess, and resisting change.

All of these are positive qualities if not taken to a ridiculous extreme, however the Left has effectively demonized those of us who are disinclined to change how things work if there is no good reason for doing so. The axiom "If it works, don't fix it" is an appropriate saying for true Conservatives.

Admiral Yamamoto quite correctly predicted after the attack on Pearl Harbor that, "...all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve". Conservatives seem to be very slow to take action, but once they do, they tend to follow through until the objective is achieved.

Warnings were apparent before the attack on Pearl Harbor, just as we were aware that the World Trade Center was a prime target for terrorists.

The key question we must ask ourselves relative to these historical attacks is "why didn't we do something about it beforehand?" Again, remember what key trait defines Conservatism - we tend not to change unless there is good cause, and this cautious nature lends itself easily to a rejection of perceived alarmism.

We had numerous warnings before the election, yet Conservatives were ill-prepared to counter Obama supporters. Those of us who did take a vocal and active stand against his radical socialism were labeled as unenlightened Extremists.

History repeats itself, and eventually Conservatives will stand together in defiance of these attacks on our Liberties, but I fear it may take far too much time for a "sleeping giant" reaction. Ron C. is absolutely correct in that we MUST take action now at the local level to effect change that is necessary. We see it, and we know our liberties are systematically being removed. As repugnant as it may seem to us, we all must adopt tactics from the Left in order to save our nation.

Grassroots efforts such as involvement in local politics is how the liberals began this current assault. We must do the same and not look towards any one individual to save our freedoms.

16 posted on 05/10/2009 4:17:57 AM PDT by NoPrisoners ("When in the course of human events...")
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You wasted bandwidth. I can sum up the Free Republic definition of "conservative" quite succinctly:

Whatever It is, It Sure As Hell Ain't YOU!!

Just as sure as there is no god, conservatives will never unite under one banner again.

19 posted on 05/10/2009 4:40:13 AM PDT by Old Sarge (Remember, remember, the Fourth of November, the Socialist treason and plot...)
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bump


21 posted on 05/10/2009 5:01:54 AM PDT by Repeal The 17th
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It has always amazed me that the “Conservative” talking pundits of the airwaves have never mentioned this. If 0.01%of the energy wasted by listening to talk radio went into committee work with their opinions, it would make a far greater difference to the country than listening to pundits preaching to the choir.


26 posted on 05/10/2009 6:01:19 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (The Election of 2008: Given the choice between stupid and evil, the stupid chose evil.)
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After reading some of the posts on this thread, the logic of some is that the GOP cannot be made into a conservative vehicle because some are against us.

But we should believe that by creating a third party, nobody will be against us.....ignoring the fact that the remnants of the OP and Dems would crush that third party jointly.

Just because a person understands and loves conservatism does not always mean they have a brain that is useful for politics.

Some people are just meant to vote while others are meant to lead.


27 posted on 05/10/2009 6:15:01 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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saving for later


30 posted on 05/10/2009 6:21:46 AM PDT by BlueStateBlues (Blue State business, Red State heart........Palin 2012, can't come soon enough.)
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this is a long and ‘windy’ post

Yeah and you think you can just apologize and it will all be okay? you can say what you like and as long as you want with no regard for our feeeelings? Like an apology is some kind of license to abuuuse us? What kind of monster ARE you???

31 posted on 05/10/2009 6:23:02 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (It's all resistance...and it's all good.)
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To whom it may concern

Months after "Obama" reveals his FIRST name he reveals the date he will detonate the bomb.

Months after "Obama" reveals his FIRST name (1) he reveals the date he will detonate the bomb. (2)

Notes
(1) "Obama" reveals his FIRST name, October 2008
http://end-times-hoaxes.blogspot.com/2008/10/real-october-surprise-it-was-already.html

(2) Using the anti-bible format. But the question is: will his masters still have enough time to do it?

32 posted on 05/10/2009 6:50:16 AM PDT by VlPu
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"It is within this arena that conservatives can effectively block RINO’s from moving higher up the political ladder – by identifying them through personal contact, listening to their conversation, finding out what they believe and would like to see come to pass in future legislation. It is in this arena that you can identify the best – and help promote them toward higher office – and easily stop the worst of the worst.

Our political system and our government are illegitimate. The GOP is controlled by the same elite political class that controls the Democrat party. . "Working within the system" is counterproductive. It diverts resources; it enables the ruling elites to co-opt the forces for change. Freedom will only come from non-violent revolution. Be prepared for the violence and hatred that the political elites will use to protect their hegemony.

Obama's election proves that most Americans value the illusion of comfort over the opportunity to achieve freedom. Don't drown yourself trying to rescue those who have chosen the illusion. They will grab you and try to make your drown along with them.

The question: How do we manage a non-violent revolution that restores freedom to those who are willing to sacrifice for it? The answer is not in the realm of politics.

Mainstream media, pop culture, and consumerism have replaced religion as the opiate of the masses. Freedom and comfort cannot co-exist. Comfort is an illusion, the snake oil that politicians sell, the price of which is your freedom.

You say you want freedom? Turn off your television. Stop buying things.

33 posted on 05/10/2009 6:52:58 AM PDT by gorilla_warrior (Liberalism is a hate crime that can no longer be tolerated.)
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It is a sign of severe dysfunction when a group savages its own members for heresy instead of turning its attention toward its true enemy.

The real danger to conservatism and the country comes from the leftist Democrats, and not from RINOs or moderate Democrats. Focus on the real enemy!

36 posted on 05/10/2009 7:34:13 AM PDT by expatpat
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