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To: Ira_Louvin; CottShop

==Even one of GGG’s favorite web sites “Creation Minstries International” is advising against using the Thermodynamics argument.

The argument CMI is advising creationists to avoid is the idea that the Second Law began at the Fall. If I understand CottShop correctly, he’s not making that argument. Rather, he’s pointing out that the Second Law makes Darwinian evolution impossible.


189 posted on 05/11/2009 9:14:29 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

[[If I understand CottShop correctly, he’s not making that argument. Rather, he’s pointing out that the Second Law makes Darwinian evolution impossible.]]

That is correct- CMI was advising agaisnt arguing that the second law began after the fall, and yep- I’m aruing that the second law is our friend, and not somehtign Creationists need to avoid discussing as pointed out in the trueorigin’s links I provided, as it renders Macroevolution impossible despite htere being examples of negative entropy that don’t relate to to a hypothetical process of ever icnreasing complexity that literally woudl have taken trillions of isntances of violations to the law which governs every other living system known- (But apparently we’re to ignore the fact that the vast majority of everythign is subject to it? And that evolving life supposedly wasn’t trillions of times?)

No- Wallace exposes the myth very well that Macroevos like to parrot that supposedly Creationists ‘don’t understand the second law of thermodynamics’. As well I’ve links to several other sites showing quite a bit more concerning this issue


190 posted on 05/11/2009 10:21:12 PM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: GodGunsGuts

>>The argument CMI is advising creationists to avoid is the idea that the Second Law began at the Fall. If I understand CottShop correctly, he’s not making that argument. Rather, he’s pointing out that the Second Law makes Darwinian evolution impossible.<<

The 2nd law doesn’t apply to the earth because the earth is not an isolated system.

Not to mention the 2nd law only applies to total entropy, some areas can become more ordered while others become less ordered, even in a completely isolated system.


191 posted on 05/12/2009 4:07:47 PM PDT by gondramB
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To: GodGunsGuts; CottShop

CottShop, GGG, your posts are Epic Science Fail. Lay readers will come away with less knowledge than if they didn’t read your posts. In summary, you simply don’t know what you are talking about.


195 posted on 05/13/2009 5:32:58 AM PDT by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what an Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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