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White House aide Louis Caldera loses job over Manhattan flyover fiasco involving Air Force One
NY Daily News ^ | 5-8-09 | By Kenneth R. Bazinet

Posted on 05/08/2009 1:18:28 PM PDT by Joiseydude

Edited on 05/08/2009 1:29:52 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: Gorzaloon

That doesn’t mean the plane wasn’t inserted in the picture


221 posted on 05/08/2009 5:04:37 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (I'd rather the world hate us then laugh at us)
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To: pollywog
Looks like Air-Force One is making our precious Statue of Liberty look small and insignificant in proportion to the plane!

It's a very strange photo op. Kind of like the United States leaving the Statue of Liberty behind. Weird picture, but I can't put my finger on it.

222 posted on 05/08/2009 5:12:43 PM PDT by jersey117
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To: penelopesire

In the photo at post #72, there appears to be a shadow (or some other darkness) that goes under the island and to the right and slightly upward. Where the shadow hits the border of the photo along the right side, there is a bright spot that may be an extension of the glare on top, or a reflection of the underbelly of a plane, or a cloud, or not.


223 posted on 05/08/2009 5:18:03 PM PDT by granite
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To: beckett

I’ve been asked to proved a link for the info in Post #215. Here’s a direct link to the letter from SecDef Gates to Sen McCain, which was posted on Sen. McCain’s website.

http://mccain.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Files.View&FileStore_id=de187b18-8aff-435b-9838-0d9722191297


224 posted on 05/08/2009 5:30:12 PM PDT by beckett (Amor Fati)
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To: Joiseydude

I’m curious as to why they thought they NEEDED a publicity photo for AF One? Do they think that folks wouldn’t recognize it if they saw it?


225 posted on 05/08/2009 5:30:48 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: granite

I see what you are talking about. What does that tell you?

I am curious about the boat in the pic. Looks like a tour boat of some kind. How many boats are in and around that area of the bay on any given monday? Also of note is the background. Looks like a poor choice of background for someone truly skilled in photography. It seems like they would have wanted the NYC skyline as well. The NYT photo has been tamperd with by the paper to improve it. The photo in #72 is the NYT photo.


226 posted on 05/08/2009 5:42:02 PM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: Joiseydude

The den of thieves at the white house waited until Friday evening to fire the poor sap.


227 posted on 05/08/2009 5:43:40 PM PDT by GinaLolaB (=^..^=)
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To: STARWISE
:)
228 posted on 05/08/2009 5:49:46 PM PDT by maggief
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To: Joiseydude
Terrorism: the calculated infliction of terror in a population to accomplish a political goal.

Terror: They knew it would frighten New Yorkers. Political goal: the purpose is for a campaign photo.

229 posted on 05/08/2009 5:51:00 PM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: Joiseydude

What gets me, if you look closely, you can clearly see that there are a large number of people all over the island.

Are we to believe that out of all of those people, not a single one of them had a camera, or the ones that did, decided, that taking a picture of Air Force One and the chase planes as they came over, at that height, were not that important.


230 posted on 05/08/2009 5:52:42 PM PDT by Ez2BRepub
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To: penelopesire

Looks like a tour boat that, judging by it’s wake, just made a sudden u-turn.


231 posted on 05/08/2009 5:56:42 PM PDT by granite
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To: Abathar

Is there a higher res version? I can’t tell if that’s tail 28000 or 29000.


232 posted on 05/08/2009 6:00:48 PM PDT by Citizen of the Savage Nation
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To: Citizen of the Savage Nation

NM, saw it in 72...tail 28000. Then its the same AF1 that was in Wichita when I was working there at Boeing in ‘05/’06. It was being modified and was in the hanger for about a year.


233 posted on 05/08/2009 6:02:03 PM PDT by Citizen of the Savage Nation
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To: Joiseydude

So this is the alleged picture:

http://static.cbslocal.com/station/wcbs/img/flyover.jpg

You couldn’t get that picture approved on airliners.net. The color is muddy, the contrast is poor, there’s a canopy reflection on the upper right, and part of the F-16’s canopy intruding on the lower right.

There’s more to this than a photo op, because if that’s the best the WH could do? They need a new photographer.

}:-)4


234 posted on 05/08/2009 6:03:32 PM PDT by Moose4 (Hey RNC. Don't move toward the middle. MOVE THE MIDDLE TOWARD YOU.)
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To: Joiseydude

OK, my theory. Bashir Assad of Syria was the passenger.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3707257,00.html

“Assad was due to arrive in Vienna Sunday for a two-day working visit, during which he was to meet his Austrian counterpart Heinz Fischer to discuss bilateral economic and cultural issues as well the political challenges in the Middle East and Syria’s role in the region.”

He was in Europe. We are in final stages of negotiations for the Netanyahu visit to DC. Assad is the problem. The Kenyan SENT Air Force one to fly him here. That, or he came here and got the royal treatment. Secret negotiations, and the Kenyan wants to talk to Muslims before he talks to the Israelis. Thats how he justifies the secret.

Can we account for Obamas and Assads whereabouts on that weekend? This was a monday morning flight. A thank you for a good sunday rappin with a homie?

This is WAY more plausible than Bush I in an SR-71 to Paris.

Any ideas, suggestions? Is there any time Obamaand Assad were both out of public eye that sat or sunday before the flight that monday morning? NO press reeleases, but did either of them make public appearances?


235 posted on 05/08/2009 6:19:06 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs earn the title of "man's best friend", Muslims hate dogs,,add that up.)
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To: maggief

Perfect ... buh-bye, George


236 posted on 05/08/2009 6:19:07 PM PDT by STARWISE (They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter)
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To: TomGuy

I don’t buy any of it.

Obama had to know... because the alternative is that you have a bunch of cabinet members and a chief of staff that don’t know what each other is doing, approving, planning or executing total lack of Communication in the White House would be more dangerous then Obama knowing and approving of the flyover in the first place. How can they possibly be keeping America safe if they don’t even know who is doing what?

Full accounting time for independent investigation before something else happens and more Americans become victims of Terror.


237 posted on 05/08/2009 6:20:08 PM PDT by Typical_Whitey (Obama's meme: Resistance is futile you will be assimilated.)
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To: Joiseydude
Why an Alabama Air National Guard F-16 "Red Tail" as chase plane?

Could the release later this year of Red Tails , a movie about the Tuskegee airmen, have anything to do this?

Is the crappy picture of Air Force One released on a Friday afternoon merely a distraction from ANY questions about the chase plane(s)?

... and yes, I know it technically ain't AF-1 unless the President is aboard.

RedTails2

Red Tail

238 posted on 05/08/2009 6:21:22 PM PDT by shoptalk (Defend principles, not personalities. Personalities will always break your heart.)
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To: Moose4

LOL that photo is a hack job.... Which reporters will do an honest investigation?


239 posted on 05/08/2009 6:22:46 PM PDT by Typical_Whitey (Obama's meme: Resistance is futile you will be assimilated.)
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To: penelopesire
I just wonder: Perhaps when the president's plane is flying, any accompaning jet fighters always have video cameras running. Just in case of a mishap...they record the flight for evidence, etc. This cannot be a photo taken specifically for a photo op.

For a real Photo Op they would have chosen a bright, sunny day. Not this overcast one, dark sky, etc. I think this photo could have been lifted from some video that was running. That is what took so long, and why it does not look professional. I doubt that a professional photo would have been taken from an accompanying jet fighter anyway, but this sure does not look like something a professional would produce. Who would want this picture for PR versus one that could be bright and colorful?

240 posted on 05/08/2009 6:34:46 PM PDT by CitizenM ("An excuse is worse than an lie, because an excuse is a lie hidden." Pope John Paul, II)
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