Funny you should mention that. On the Other side of the pond the closed equivalent (navy owned, mostly civilian crew) to the USNS Lewis and Clark is the Royal Fleet Auxiliary
Posted on 05/07/2009 10:35:54 AM PDT by nickcarraway
Suspected pirates failed in an effort to attack a U.S. Navy ship off the eastern coast of Somalia. the Navy said Thursday.
Two skiffs, assumed to be pirate vessels, chased the Lewis and Clark, a dry cargo and ammunition ship supporting the Navy's Fifth Fleet, for more than an hour Wednesday before giving up, CNN reported.
During the pursuit, the skiffs fired small arms at the Lewis and Clark and got within one nautical mile before the ship used evasive maneuvers and pulled out of range.
“If it’s racist to question Obama’s history, truthfulness, intellect, loyalty, anti American friendships, anti American behavior and general deportment as a congenital liar and narcissist — then the term racist has been redefined to describe one who refuses to drink the politically correct Kool-Aid.”
I’ll take your side on that issue!
I reckon you’re right... still... I would make sure my crew was armed and ready to go.
Thanks - but you'd better sandbag your bunker!
I could have guessed that it would be someone from Texas who would have arrived FIRST and ALONE.
Sort of like the quip accredited to a Texas Ranger who showed up at a major riot ALONE. When asked why he came alone, he replied: "One riot, one Ranger".
It's amazing how cowed folks in this forum have become.
Most are afraid and refusing to acknowledge the race issue that IS present in Obama's "administration", because THEY made it so and campaigned upon race as much as anything.
So - I'll judge the results as reflective of the race that supported him at nearly 100%...and scrutinize Obama's actions to determine how they are biased toward his race and his radical Leftist bias at the expense of my race and conservative positions.
That is pure survival theology and self defense...
Funny you should mention that. On the Other side of the pond the closed equivalent (navy owned, mostly civilian crew) to the USNS Lewis and Clark is the Royal Fleet Auxiliary
Bet it makes nice holes in waterlines too, at a mile. :-)
I agree - but beware—
Criticism of Obama, the black racist president, implementing EXACTLY the destruction he ascribed to by listening to a “preacher” vomit out the Black Liberation Theology - will get you labeled a racist....
Why would the U.S. Navy run from pirates- shouldn’t it be the other way around?
If the ship was not capable of facing pirates and being able to deal with them effectively- it should not have been traveling without other ships with that capability. Either way this is not good.
If not able to deal with pirates- needs escort that can. With the threat of terrorists and others that wish to do us harm we should not have a Navy ship out there without the means to defend itself.
I hope not. This site would be out of business.
But it's certainly possible to do these things without mentioning his race.
It may not have been your intent, but you have to consider how these words come across.
I don't think the Navy alters its ROE simply because of the skin color of the president. One can imagine a number of possible black presidents - say, Colin Powell (be he RINO or not), Michael Steele, etc. - which wouldn't seem likely to prompt such questions.
It is my contention, that Obama's decisions and his race can NOT be separated.
His 20 years in a hate pit "church" - preaching black racism and Black Liberation Theology make ignoring his race and his racist foundation -- IMPOSSIBLE.
Obama and his supporters use every opportunity to call attention to his race....why should we not view him in the same window?
"I don't think the Navy alters its ROE simply because of the skin color of the president."
The Navy in under the direct control of the CIC - the President... It is the PRESIDENT's unproved ability to make decisions that are FREE of his undeniable Leftist, black racism and life long association with anti-American Marxists and self declared terrorists that I fear.... His relationship and early support of his confessed Muslim Islamist terrorist Uncle in Kenya can not be ignored......
Even a casual review of nearly every act by Obama and his administration have followed a radical Left tack - and casting America in a negative role with his constant apologizing for America and without question - BOWING to the King of Saudi Arabia... That act really ripped it for me.
I question this president's ability, loyalty and trustworthiness in the position of CIC - and fear his influence is detrimental to National Security. I believe a large measure of that is directly related to his history and resentment of his experiences as a half black, half African - who appears resentful of his white half.
I think a LOT of folks KNOW what’s going on....
There can be no other explanation for the explosion in the sale of firearms and ammunition.....
1. They KNOW the Leftists strongly fear an Armed Citizenry and will work to end or curtail the ability of law abiding citizens to arm themselves.
2. They KNOW the 2nd Amendment was written to allow the citizens to “deal” with a tyrannical government - foreign or domestic....
Liberation Theology. What a enormous perversion of the faith that is. The Roman Catholic Church in central & south America has been successfully infiltrated by this Marxist movement. American school children are studying about people like Bishop Romero as heroic protectors of the peasants. These well intended theologians are all agents for marxist atheists. Useful idiots. That is WHO these people are. They use their racial WHAT as cover.
How did the liberation theologians defend the issue of their use of Marxism? They have vigorously defended their use of Marx on two major grounds. First, Marxism, according to Gutierrez, is seen as a “tool of social analysis” which allows insights to be gained concerning the present nature of Latin American society and the means by which the appalling situation of the poor may be remedied. Second, it provides a political program by which the present unjust social system may be dismantled, and a more equitable society created. In practice, then, liberation theology is intensely critical of capitalism and supportive of socialism. Nevertheless, it must be stressed that liberation theology declares God’s preference for and commitment to the poor, a fundamental aspect of the gospel, and is not based purely on Marxist theory.
Your final point, which should have been your ONLY point, is relevant, but is NOT what you originally stated and asked. Its relevance is minimal, however, since the policy of using unarmed or lightly armed, civilian crewed but Navy owned ships as ammunition carriers was not Zero's idea.
I asked you a question, BTW: when was the last time, Pre-Zero, that a US Naval Ship was attacked by pirates? That incident (if it exists) will be your precedent for rationally judging the recent attack on USNS L&C and Zero's possible disloyalty.
Your homework, RR, is to research the matter rationally and factually, and report your documented findings to us.
Class dismissed.
I think further up the thread someone posted that usually these are civilian-run ships. However, I agree that it should have had an escort if traveling through pirate-infested waters. You wouldn’t even need much of an escort with the small arms and small skiffs the Somalis are using.
I read the article but it doesn’t say what if any weapons it has on board.
Couldn’t attacking a U.S. Naval vessel be considered an act of war?
Yeah but we don’t have anyone that would do anything about it.
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