Posted on 05/07/2009 6:46:06 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta
If he were really born in Hawaii, we would know it by now. Or else there is something on the BC he really doesn’t want anyone to know. Either way, he is a fraud.
That's not exactly correct.
0bama's vault certificate is a "valid birth certificate" but it may reveal he is a US citizen but NOT a natural born citizen.
I understand what you mean but you need to be careful not to reinforce the liberal claim that having a valid US birth certificate is proof of qualification to become President - it is NOT.
It depends on the CONTENT of that certificate, which in 0bam's case, may disqualify him.
He makes a 'used car' salesman look like a pillar of integrity.
The constitution says nothing about a birth certificate.
The court refuses to demand ANY form of a birth certificate, and ignores the obvious evasion that Obama is engaged in.
Try running from a cop for no reason... see what happens.
That would be wonderful, but once when Keyes was interviewed on Plains Radio, he was asked about that and he said, ‘I don’t ever remember that conversation’.
Whether Obama was born in Hawaii or not, doesn’t really matter. Just being born in Hawaii does not make Obama a “natural born citizen”. Becoming a “natural born citizen” depends on the status of both parents citizenship. Both parents must have been citizens of the United States at the time of Obama’s birth in order for him to obtain “natural born citizen” status.
The purpose of the “natural born citizen” clause in the US Constitution was to prevent individuals with allegiance to other countries from being elected to the office of President of the United States. Basically, those with dual citizenship status, need not apply.
Obama, due to his father being a citizen of Kenya, a colony of Great Britain, at the time of Obama’s birth, would have possessed dual citizenship in America and Great Britain, at the time of his birth.
He is ineligible to serve as President of the United States, because as a dual citizen at the time of his birth, he can never be a “natural born citizen” of the United States.
Interesting that you should mention this. 0bama is ignoring precedent everywhere he goes. The GM reorganization is a good example.
Judges constantly harp on the importance of the rule of law to the administration of justice. Completely ignoring precedent undermines the rule of law very quickly and the justice system loses its legitimacy. This is all part of 0bama's design.
I have two in my Maine home who were born at Kapiolani Hospital. One in the mid ‘50’s and one in the mid 80’s.
The 50’s birth certificate has a picture of the old hospital and signatures inside of mother, attending physician, and administrator. Date, time, sex and weight are also stated. It is NOT notarized. It is obviously done with an old typewriter.
The 50’s CERTIFICATE OF LIVE BIRTH is a copy of the original produced in 1984. It IS notarized, but on the back of this one (since it is a ‘true copy of the record on file’) is the signature of the state registrar and date it was issued. My Mother-in-law’s signature, attendant’s signature (MD), and Local Registrar’s signature are on this one.
I also have a ‘Birth Registration Card’ produced in the 50’s. It is the size of a credit card with the Registrar General’s signature. (Deputy is typed next to the signature.)
My son’s birth certificate, which is notarized, is labelled: CERTIFICATE OF LIVE BIRTH. (MID 80’S)
My mother-in-law was a single parent and thus the father is not listed on the certificates.
I would like to know the date that Obama’s Certificate of Live Birth was reproduced (since it seems to be computer generated) and name of the state registrar on the back of the obvious ‘copy of the record’.
“I have to find that video”
PLEASE DO!!!
I’ve heard that too, then I’ve seen 1 poster dispute it. I’d love confirmation either way.
“...What I can’t understand is how no one can get this thing to court....”
Because it seems that the SCOTUS is a willing accomplice to this fraud.
I assume that everyone here is familiar with the Blog of Leo Denofrio...
http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/
A valuable compendium on the “natural born citizen” issue...
What if it’s a charade and he produces a forged document that was placed in the Dept. of Health, say, the night before? I wouldn’t put it past him and his minions.
“...and makes the Right look foolish for asking.”
Un hah, “foolish.” If you are stopped by the police for some minor driving infraction and the cop says, “Let’s see your license,” you DO NOT tell him he’s foolish for asking and refuse to show your license. IT’S THE LAW. The President of the United States of America is not above the law, and the law says he must be a natural born citizen.
This is really the only recourse left at this point I fear. And, from what I've read, a few states have done so already, which is really all that's needed for 2012. If just one state refuses to certify him in 2012 for this purpose, then the issue will finally be brought to light. Conversely, if all states certify him in 2012, then the issue is also settled, that is if we truly are "reasonable" in this question.
Speaking of being "reasonable", as for what the blog suggests, that is of no use whatsoever. It is, in fact, exactly what I predicted would happen if emotion and obstinacy were to rule instead of reason and logic. Now that we have the "possibility" that he and his team are "forging a long form" right now, what point is there to releasing it?
If a "long form" is released in the next few months, and we take what this blog suggests as "truth", then the question won't be "why doesn't he just release the long form", it will be "when was his team in the Canadian print museum, and how much did they know about forging a document?"
Don't we all see how ridiculous this is becoming? The goal posts keep shifting, because we "know" he isn't a natural born citizen. If we take what this blog suggests to be true, then there will be no way for him to prove his natural born status. No proof will ever be enough.
It's time to stop shifting the goal posts. If he produces a so-called "long form" in the next few months that should be good enough for anyone who is reasonable.
Myself, I've given this "theory" a lot of latitude. As it stands right now, I do believe there are some reasonable, open ended questions that could/should be answered. If he releases a long form in the next few months, that'll be good enough for me. If we start asking questions about printing presses and UV light aging at that point, we WILL start looking like conspiracy nuts.
Ultimately, as stated before, some states have already passed laws demanding original BC's as part of their certification process for 2012. So really, if he has been faking it all this time, he only has until then. I think the country is strong enough to survive 4 years even with an ineligible president.
I cannot stand Bill O’Reilly. He is a populist and not a conservative.
Cannot do that because Presidential elections fall under the FEC and not the state. Thus adding the birth certificate requirement needs FEC approval.
Ohhhh I have never heard this before. There is something there all right. Why haven't we heard more from Keyes on this? BO could easily prove to be the biggest impostor in history. The audacity!
Need help. I remember reading an article recently that some group sued Occidental College for BO records per FIA. Records were released. Something about his claim for aid as a foreign student (Indonesia) and BO received it. Opens an issue, did BO lie to get the aid or was he truly an Indonesian citizen. Now I cannot find the article on the internet. Anyone see it reported by overseas or domestic papers???
Aw, you’re just “funnin’” us-—aren’t you???? It’s not just the BC issue; it’s ALL the missing years. It’s as though he did not exist before 2008. He had no friends, no transcripts, no writings, no past—except what he himself has fabricated. Not one person has stepped forward to say, “Yeah, we were roommates, and he was such a great guy even then.”
Someone mentioned on this site a few months ago that perhaps the Moussad should be tasked with exposing this whole charade. Although I cannot see them sneaking into the locked Hawaii vault to retrieve the real BC, maybe they have OTHER ways . . .
$1,066,000 is the amount spent with the lawyers to protect the release of his birth cert. Geez, what would you do with a million dollars? Pundits just laugh it off, it’s only the Constitution. It’s only a government of the people. ‘The most transparent government in history’ this from the candidate who hid the most from the public ever.
Of course he is a natural born citizen, natural born Keynesian.
transcript from O’reilly “Everyday people email me saying Obama is not a natural born citizen, I direct them to Glen Beck (laughter).” Colmes “those people are just the the most right wing of the party”
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