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To: RasterMaster; library user
Regarding tossing RINOs, that's something the Republicans need to do. As far as tossing the fringe people you've just named, they aren't really Republican affiliates but if they want to vote that way (and can bring friends along), then they should ~ or just stay home.

The deal is the electorate is made up of a bi-modal saddle (if you take every idealogy into account and spread them out). It's not a left/right thing.

For the most part you have Republicans and you have Democrats. Never mind the Leftwingtards arguing that Republicans are disappearing ~ they aren't, they're just not talking to the Leftwingtards anymore.

The reason we have mostly Republicans or Democrats is we have single-member districts at the state level. The math forces all candidates to "embrace" something so they do. That's where we get RINOs from ~ where there are too many Democrats, and not enough Republicans to provide something to "embrace" that's consistent with the national Republican party ~ in short, RINOs occur where that other node in the bi-modal saddle is MISSING ~ and unfortunately it's always been MISSING in some places, e.g. New York, Boston and its suburbs, Philadelphia and its suburbs, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Chicago and so on.

It ain't comin' back in the places where it's always been missing.

Well, anyway, the long and the short of it is to win where there's a bi-modal saddle you have to attract folks from the other node. At the same time there's always a fringe of people who can't quite get their act together and think the math of the single-member district can be defeated, and they're out there. Sometimes they think of themselves as Independents ~ but they're not. They are simply outlyers or fringe people. Fortunately they never constitute as much as 20% of the electorate. Unfortunately the other node, for us the Democrats, have sufficient numbers to beat us even if we get all the fringe people and they get some of ours. Vice Versa is true as well.

So, how do you win over Democrats to vote for Conservative candidates? That's the question to ponder. Winning over the fringe (so-called independents) is not all that hard, but winning over Democrats to vote for Conservatives is the issue.

Undoubtedly charismatic candidates will help. Lots of campaign dollars will help. Most of all we have to show that our non-Democrat candidates CAN lead.

Always remember, though, Democrats are like dogs. Unless you convert them they will return to their vomit. We are at such a time in our history. Someone forgot to tame the new Catholic Democrats and convert them into Real Catholic Republicans. There's a counterpart problem in Mormon territory as well ~ the Mormon Democrat. They've got enough of them around to ruin the chance of a real Conservative to win. Someone has to go after those people and convert them ~ it wasn't just enough to turn 'em into Mormons (SEE: Mormon, Baptist, War in the Intermountain) ~ they had to be brought over all the way.

We also forgot to convert the Coal Country Democrats back into Republicans ~ they're still Conservative enough, but we lost them several decades back. They're worth some work.

Worst of all we lost the North East ~ we gave up the Republican party to the RINOs ~ and there went all the other offices. No RINO ever supports the ticket. That's gotta' change, and that's why I think the RINO brand has to be driven from the Republican party and denied access to Conservative votes.

125 posted on 05/03/2009 1:17:07 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

“Always remember, though, Democrats are like dogs. Unless you convert them they will return to their vomit. We are at such a time in our history. Someone forgot to tame the new Catholic Democrats and convert them into Real Catholic Republicans. There’s a counterpart problem in Mormon territory as well ~ the Mormon Democrat. They’ve got enough of them around to ruin the chance of a real Conservative to win. Someone has to go after those people and convert them ~ it wasn’t just enough to turn ‘em into Mormons (SEE: Mormon, Baptist, War in the Intermountain) ~ they had to be brought over all the way.

We also forgot to convert the Coal Country Democrats back into Republicans ~ they’re still Conservative enough, but we lost them several decades back. They’re worth some work.”

Thank you for not giving up on the Republican party in mass. Some here are doing that. I say to advocate the death of the Republican party will consign us to the Ds and then two 20% parties that will never beat the Ds for 50 to 75 years...is that what we want? If I’m wrong then tell me why history supports this? Also, talk to me about winner takes all elections. We need to have a two pronged strategy (at least) to bring Conservatives back. That does not include killing the Republican party (mostly because we can’t and that because of history and the political structure of the country.)

I know I’m sounding like a broken record at the moment - but those blasting the Rs with full phaser to kill force - really need to think through their strategy - that is - if they have a strategy - to bring Conservatism back to power.


746 posted on 05/03/2009 7:54:06 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Country and the Tea Party! Take America Back!)
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