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To: Gordon Greene
See that is the point... all of the statements you quoted above are based on assumptions made by scientists, not proven science. Evolution is still a theory....

Evolution will always be a theory.

Theory: a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world; an organized system of accepted knowledge that applies in a variety of circumstances to explain a specific set of phenomena; "theories can incorporate facts and laws and tested hypotheses."

Theories do not grow up to be laws or facts. Theories explain laws. And your attempt to demean evolution be labeling it "still" a theory is quite silly.

103 posted on 05/01/2009 11:26:34 AM PDT by Unruly Human
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To: Unruly Human; GodGunsGuts

“Theories do not grow up to be laws or facts. Theories explain laws. And your attempt to demean evolution be labeling it “still” a theory is quite silly.”

As is your reply... and your user name.


107 posted on 05/01/2009 11:41:45 AM PDT by Gordon Greene (www.fracturedrepublic.com - Jesus said, "I am THE way, THE truth and THE life." Any questions?)
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To: Unruly Human; Gordon Greene
Theories do not grow up to be laws or facts. Theories explain laws.

Exactly. Newtonian physics was replaced by Einstein's theory of relativity, which in turn is being replaced by an understanding of physics which has yet to be named.

For everyday purposes, Newtonian physics accurately describes pretty much everything. We don't have to go into second derivatives, matrices, and universal constants to describe the path of a bullet. Einstein's theory kicks in when we need to calculate more subtle things, such as the motion of planets and stars. At the quantum level, Einsten's theory fails.

I'm sure that you know this, Unruly Human, but there a few things that have to taken as metaphysical, irrefutable facts. The best example is self identity

a = a

There are others as well.


117 posted on 05/01/2009 12:11:59 PM PDT by DallasMike
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To: Unruly Human; GodGunsGuts; DallasMike

“Evolution will always be a theory.”

Why? If evolution were true then it would eventually be proved out by itself. Not only that, but there would be true and recognizable fossil evidence with a supposed 80 million + years of strata to sift through. I will not enter into a debate about something for which there is no proof... the same is true about my faith in God. Creation itself speaks to the existence of God and that is something tangible I can see, feel, hear and taste. Unlike the various hypothesis scientists continue to grasp at to try and prove their textbook conclusions. I have faith in God... you have faith in evolution. If you choose to worship at the altar of Darwin that’s your prerogative. I won’t try to sway you from it except for this one thing; I wish that you would accept Jesus because I do care for your soul as much as I can care for someone that I do not know and have not met.

I cannot leave this conversation without reiterating this point: If evolution were true it would by its very nature have to eventually prove itself.

P.S. There are many dictionary definitions of theory several of which I have posted below. You can choose whichever you like if you wish to simply call someone elses ideas silly. It’s a free country... for now.

Theory:

a proposed explanation whose status is still conjectural, in contrast to well-established propositions that are regarded as reporting matters of actual fact.

contemplation or speculation.

guess or conjecture.


127 posted on 05/01/2009 3:24:48 PM PDT by Gordon Greene (www.fracturedrepublic.com - Jesus said, "I am THE way, THE truth and THE life." Any questions?)
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