I pray you are right. I was not that concerned until today....especially for Texas(my home).
This post was very alarming(from another thread):
“A friend of mine on another board posted this email she received from her doctor in Texas. It’s sounding pretty scary to me:
New Braunfels, TX
After I returned from a public health meeting yesterday with community leaders and school officials in Comal County and Hays County, Heather suggested I send an update to my patients in the area, because what we are hearing privately from the CDC and Health Department is different from what you are hearing in the media. Some of you know some of this, but I will just list what facts I know.
- The virus is infectious for about 2 days prior to symptom onset
- Virus spreads more than 7 days after symptom onset (possibly as long as 9 days) (this is more unusual than ordinary flu)
- Since it is such a novel (new) virus, there is no “herd immunity,” so the “attack rate” is very high. This is the percentage of people who come down with a virus if exposed. Almost everyone who is exposed to this virus will become infected, though not all will be symptomatic. That is much higher than seasonal flu, which averages 10-15%. The “clinical attack rate” estimation from CDC and WHO may be around 40-50%. This is the number of people who show symptoms. This is a huge number. It is hard to convey the seriousness of this to those outside of the medical fields.
- The virulence (deadliness) of this virus is as bad here as in Mexico, and there are folks on ventilators here in the US, right now. This has not been in the media, but a 23 month old in Houston is fighting for his life, and a pregnant woman just south of San Antonio is fighting for her life. In Mexico, these folks might have died already, but here in the US, folks are getting Tamiflu or Relenza quickly, and we have ready access to ventilators. What this means is that within a couple of weeks, regional hospitals will likely become overwhelmed.
- Some of the kids with positive cases in Comal County have had more than 70 contacts before diagnosis as a minimum figure.
- There are 10-25 times more actual cases (not “possible” cases — actual), than what is being reported in the media. The way they fudge on reporting this is that it takes 3 days to get the confirmatory nod from the CDC on a given viral culture, but based on epidemiological grounds, we know that there are more than 10 cases for each “confirmed” case right now.
- During the night, we crossed the threshold for the definition of a WHO, Phase 6 global pandemic. This has not happened in any of our lifetimes so far. We are in uncharted territory.
- They are advising President Obama to declare an emergency sometime in the next 72-96 hours. This may not happen, but if it doesn’t, I will be surprised. When this happens, all public gathering will be cancelled for 10 days minimum.
- I suggest all of us avoid public gatherings. Outdoor activities are not as likely to lead to infection. It is contained areas and close contact that are the biggest risk.
- Tamiflu is running out. There is a national stockpile, but it will have to be carefully managed for law enforcement and first responders as it is not enough to treat the likely number of infections when this is full-blown. I don’t think there is a big supply of Relenza, but I do not know those numbers. If I had to choose, I would take Relenza, as I think it gets more drug to the affected tissue than Tamiflu.
- You should avoid going to the ER if you think you have been exposed or are symptomatic. ER’s south of here are becoming overwhelmed today— and I mean that — already. It is coming in waves, but the waves are getting bigger.
- It appears that this flu produces a distinctive “hoarseness” in many victims. The symptoms, in general, match other flu’s; namely, sore throat, body aches, headache, cough, and fever. What is not too common in regular flu cycles is vomiting and diarrhea which seems to be associated with this, further dehydrating victims. Some have all these symptoms, while others may have only one or two.
- N-Acetyl-Cysteine — a nutritional supplement available at the health food store or Wimberley Pharmacy, has been shown to prevent or lessen the severity of influenza. I suggest 1200mg, twice a day for adults, and 600mg twice a day in kids over 12. It would be hard to get kids under 12 to take it, but you could try opening the capsules and putting it on yogurt. For 40 pounds and up, 300-600 mg twice a day, for less than 40 pounds, half that.
- Oscillococinum, a homeopathic remedy, has been vindicated as quite effective in a large clinical trial in Europe, with an H1N1 variant. You can buy this at Hill Country Natural Foods, or the Wimberley Pharmacy.
I will try to keep everyone posted if I have any new information. Meanwhile, don’t be afraid, stay informed and try to avoid infection. The fewer people infected the easier it will be for our public officials to manage it.
If any of my patients become ill, or suspect infection, call the office, do not come without calling and DO NOT go to the ER. If one member in a family is identified all would be given the Tamiflu or Relenza (that is normal course of action) if there is enough distributed to fill prescriptions. Public health stated that one family member identified or suspected to have contracted the flu it will require the whole family to be ‘quarantined’ in their own home until enough time has passed for the remaining household to have contracted it or be considered infection free ( 7 to 10 days per person). As another suggestion, if any member of the family is on routine medication- fill those prescriptions now. Have plenty fluids, Motrin, soups, etc available and make contingency plans in case your family is affected.”
114 posted on Wednesday, April 29, 2009 10:15:15 PM by battletank
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Yikes
Ping to Penelopesire’s post at #8 — some VERY interesting info. there...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2241041/posts?page=8#8
Thank you for sharing that penelopesire... I only hope that the FReepers here who are saying it’s all a bunch of BS wake up...
Praying here... One of my daughter’s online friends who lives in Texas (near Pasadena, IIRC) came down with cold symptoms yesterday (stuffy nose, cough, no fever), so we already know someone personally who could very well have this new virus.
HHHMMMMMMMM.....
During the night, we crossed the threshold for the definition of a WHO, Phase 6 global pandemic.
Have we gone to 6 yet? Am I missing something?
This is what jumped off the page at me just now in reading it:
(snip) "This has not been in the media, but a 23 month old in Houston is fighting for his life, and a pregnant woman just south of San Antonio is fighting for her life." (snip)
bump for future reference
BTTT
My best friend got a call last night from her friend who works at CDC. Said we are intentionally not being told the true numbers. Said it is much worse than we are hearing from media or from CDC itself. In addition to the lag time you mentioned, this disinformation is intentional to try to control panic. Also, so they can “manage” things in the early stages (make preps for flooded emergency rooms, free up funding, prep for quarantine, you name it).
My friend lives in Wash DC... People riding the Metro (train) stop near a large Govt complex were wearing masks.
bookmark
Myth Busted: N95 Masks Are Useless at Protecting Wearers from Swine Flu by Mike Adams the Health Ranger Address:http://www.naturalnews.com/026160.html
“What this means is that within a couple of weeks, regional hospitals will likely become overwhelmed.”
Napolitano is purposefully IGNORING, NON-COMMENTING on THIS very reason for closing our borders and she needs to be confronted with it.
Once Mexicans decide America is the better place to be for (free) medical care, they will storm our borders.
We need CLOSE THE BORDER Tea Parties, NOW.
Uh-oh. There have been several people at work, my boss among them, who have been very sick and came back to work with a very hoarse voice.
Come to think of it, my department's process engineer could barely speak at yesterday's morning meeting.
Wimberley, eh? I love that town! I stop by the Wimberley Pie Company every time I'm in that area!
We've had great success with this simple remedy. It is available at our local Wal-Mart.
It would be a good idea to stock up. Start taking it at the very first sign of flu-like illness.
Do you have the link to that post?
I’m still not spending much time worrying about it- except for the oddness of the APPARENT facts on ground (reported mild to moderate symptoms and not as many deaths as originally reported) vs the reaction of the government and WHO.
I don’t know WHAT it is- but something isn’t normal.
The Number on the level associated with a Pandemic is NOT about the number of deaths but about the spread of disease.
When a virus goes to rapid human to human transmission as this one has, that is what is causing concern.
Plus the similarities to the 1918 Spanish Flu. NO-ONE knows exactly what this one will do yet.
It stands to reason, based upon what has happened in Mexico that it will become more deadly as it passes through the general population.
Personal Preparedness can’t hurt. We KNOW that the government is not the answer to all problems.
Brace yourselves, this could get alot uglier before it gets better.
The following is from a report from the WHO regarding Pandemic Phases.
The pandemic stage 6 may be marked by two or more waves. For example, the initial wave of the Spanish Influenza pandemic in the spring of 1918 was so mild in its effects that it received the dismissive nickname of the “three day flu.”
But when the second wave hit North America a few months later in the summer of 1918, it was lethal.
Apparently in the interim the novel H1N1 pandemic strain had added the gene or genes that made the final wave a killer.
Perhaps the effects of the lethal second wave would have been even more devastating if the innocuous first wave had not already passed through the population, leaving in its wake at least some immune response to the surface antigens presented by the H1N1 in both waves.
Interesting, I just received this morning the same exact email from a friend that says he received it from a friend’s, friend.
FYI ping to post #8
“A friend of mine on another board posted this email she received from her doctor in Texas. It’s sounding pretty scary to me:
New Braunfels, TX
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The doctor that wrote the email from New Braunfels some are pooh poohing elsewhere on this thread and others has a name.
http://www.vitals.com/doctors/Dr_Marcus_Gitterle.html
http://www.prisonplanet.com/texas-doctor-claims-swine-flu-cases-far-worse-than-reported.html
yeah I know it’s Alex Jones, but this email may be the real deal.
IMO, people are wondering why the government is loathe to do anything about it and not closing the border, etc. Panicking people in a recession, enforcing quarantine, etc. would have negative impact on GDP as well as have a negative impact on social order. Couple that with groups using this situation for political purposes and/or profit, and you’ve got the mass confusion we’re in. Personally I’m not running for the hills yet or shuttering my windows, but I am preparing for the worst and hoping for the best. If this is the “real deal” good luck to all of you