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Native Americans Descended From a Single Ancestral Group, DNA Study Confirms
UC Davis ^ | April 28, 2009 | Kari Schroeder and Liese Greensfelder

Posted on 04/29/2009 6:13:15 AM PDT by Pharmboy

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To: Pharmboy

.....How does this reconcile with the language evidence seemingly proving separate migrations......

Although the article said the 9 repeat allele had no biological function, it would appear that it did. The function was murderous aggression trait.

All the men were killed and the women enslaved. The previous migration populations were absorbed by warfare and attrition


81 posted on 04/29/2009 11:43:12 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Crucify ! Crucify ! Crucify him!!)
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To: Joya

THANKS


82 posted on 04/29/2009 11:50:01 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: blam; ml/nj; Pharmboy; All

“Furthermore, the fact that the allele was absent in other Asian populations most likely meant that America’s ancestral founders had been isolated from the rest of Asia for thousands of years before they moved into the New World: that is, for a period of time that was long enough to allow the allele to originate in, and spread throughout, the isolated population.”

I’m gonna have to call BS.

How is it these learned men didn’t include the possibility of these *natives* being here (in America) all along?


83 posted on 04/29/2009 12:02:05 PM PDT by wolfcreek ("unnamed "right-wing extremist")
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To: Lucky Dog
I would have to go with *aboriginal* or *indigenous)
84 posted on 04/29/2009 12:06:23 PM PDT by wolfcreek ("unnamed "right-wing extremist")
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To: Godzilla

I’ll come over when I have time, wait for me?


85 posted on 04/29/2009 12:19:55 PM PDT by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: Pharmboy

Short version: “Native Americans” were the last migration to America. After they arrived, they murdered to extinction the earlier immigrants from Europe, who had arrived thousands of years earlier by following the glacial shore in small boats from what is now Spain to what is now Canada, hunting fish and mammals as they came in small groups in short steps.


86 posted on 04/29/2009 12:26:53 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: pabianice; blam

Were these Euro-Americans so helpless? Did they not have weapons to defend themselves, or were they used to an Eden-like environment so they became easy targets?


87 posted on 04/29/2009 12:58:55 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Who ever thought we would long for the days of the Clinton administration...)
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To: DelphiUser

What, you are not going to cut and paste as usual?


88 posted on 04/29/2009 1:47:14 PM PDT by Godzilla (TEA: Taxed Enough Already)
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To: CholeraJoe
"Hah! I knew it. The Polynesians just wanted to get in on the South American oil money."

Most people make that maistake about oil...they were after the sweet potatoes.

They traded chickens for potatoes.

Polynesian Chickens In Chile

Volume 61 Number 1, January/February 2008
by Eric A. Powell

"Scholars have long assumed the Spaniards first introduced chickens to the New World along with horses, pigs, and cattle. But now radiocarbon dating and DNA analysis of a chicken bone excavated from a site in Chile suggest Polynesians in oceangoing canoes brought chickens to the west coast of South America well before Europe's "Age of Discovery."

[snip]

89 posted on 04/29/2009 2:05:49 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

2004: Top (Archaeological) Finds On Bolivian Highlands

Finnish scientists discovered the most significant relics of antiquity in recent Bolivian history.

90 posted on 04/29/2009 2:12:30 PM PDT by blam
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To: Pharmboy
Comet Theory Collides With Clovis Research, May Explain Disappearance Of Ancient People
91 posted on 04/29/2009 2:15:58 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
Why were they after sweet potatoes when they already had yams? They are different species, you know. Yams are native to the South Pacific and Africa but aren't found in great abundance in South America.
92 posted on 04/29/2009 2:22:19 PM PDT by CholeraJoe (Saiga 12 shotgun - When the Zombies see it, they'll sh*t bricks.)
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To: CholeraJoe
"They are different species, you know."

Yes, I know. We (in error) call sweet potatoes yams because that's what African slaves called them here in the American south.

I don't know why sweet potatoes migrated west but they did.

93 posted on 04/29/2009 2:33:40 PM PDT by blam
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
Looking at the photo head on, to the right side...

I know - I was bein' a wise guy. stage left and right is always confusing to me.

94 posted on 04/29/2009 2:47:35 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: blam
I don't know why sweet potatoes migrated west but they did.

They thought a Missouri mob was out to get 'em!

95 posted on 04/29/2009 2:49:34 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: brytlea; squarebarb

I have to agree with squarebarb’s comment in #19.

In all likelihood, the population was actually Beringian, not Eurasian nor American.

The bering strait land bridge was more than a bridge, it was a fertile land mass, thriving with game, and probably warmed by pacific sea currents.

It would have been isolated during the last ice age, and the human population that existed there would have had plenty of time to develop unique genetic characteristics.

At the end of the ice age, some of the population went west, and some went east, into the americas.


96 posted on 04/29/2009 3:16:13 PM PDT by Drammach (Freedom - It's not just a job, It's an Adventure)
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To: Elsie

Ha - I assumed I was saying it incorrectly - glad to know you were just being a smarty pants. ;^)


97 posted on 04/29/2009 3:25:34 PM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (He bows to the Saudi King - we don't have Camelot, we have Camel Lot)
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To: pabianice
After they arrived, they murdered to extinction the earlier immigrants from Europe, who had arrived thousands of years earlier

Likewise, "they" murdered to near extinction earlier south american immigrants from Australia.
We have archaeological evidence as well as DNA evidence of those populations.

98 posted on 04/29/2009 3:34:42 PM PDT by Drammach (Freedom - It's not just a job, It's an Adventure)
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To: blam
Immigrants From The Other Side (Clovis Is Solutrean?)
99 posted on 04/29/2009 3:34:43 PM PDT by blam
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To: Pharmboy

I am not a geneticist or anything but as an avid genealogist I got my DNA tested with Family Tree DNA of Houston Texas. They are the largest DNA lab and have the largest current database. There are over 5,000 different studies going on that cover surnames, ethnicity and geographical sample groups.

They are working with the National Geographic Human Genome and Migration study based at the University of Arizona. According to them, there are Indians from the East coast of North America who exhibit European haplotypes even though their genealogical or historical documentation show no late generation mingling with European settlers. I believe in particular, the Chippewa and Ojibway have been mentioned as having a higher incidence of this characteristic.

There was a program on the History Channel called “10,000 BC”, which studied this Ice Age migration from Western Europe. I won’t disagree with scientists who specialize in genetics but I do question the contradictory nature of this study when there are others currently ongoing that seem to indicate the possibility that North America was settled by two different groups from both East and West. The genes don’t lie, and if an individual’s genetic information cannot be connected to someone in recorded memory then the ancestor goes further back than the modern period of European settlement.

It has been very enlightening to know ones own Haplogroup and Haplotype but it has also been a great dissappointment to some when their genetic signature is not what they were expecting! The bottom line is that the scientific community seems to agree that humanity originated in Africa and the path of genetic migration seems to have confirmed that theory. We all owe our existence to wandering bands of hunter gatherers who ventured out of Africa and covered the globe.


100 posted on 04/29/2009 4:13:41 PM PDT by No more Demofascists
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