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NY Times OP-ED: Cheney for President
NY Times ^
| April 27, 2009
| By ROSS DOUTHAT
Posted on 04/27/2009 5:02:31 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
No wonder the NYT chose this squish as the second token conservative.
To: Oldeconomybuyer
Candidate Cheney is not a winning recipe, but I damn sure wish he was president!
To: americanophile
I do think he would have won in WY, but I don’t know about elsewhere.
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posted on
04/27/2009 5:05:47 PM PDT
by
Theodore R.
(GWB is gone: Now the American sheeple can sleep at night!)
To: Theodore R.
He would have won Oklahoma, no question about it.
To: Oldeconomybuyer
Cheney has taken the fight to the Obama White House like a man who wouldnt have minded campaigning for a third Bush-Cheney term. Actually, it would've been a third Rove-Cheney term wouldn't it?
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posted on
04/27/2009 5:07:59 PM PDT
by
Texas Eagle
(If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all. -- Texas Eagle)
To: Oldeconomybuyer
I wouldn't doubt that he could be elected if there was another very big terrorist attack in the United States. Even people who support the Democrats know they are weak on defense, especially compared to people like Cheney. As soon as their is another big terrorist attack in the U.S. the Democrats will be kicked out of office.
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posted on
04/27/2009 5:08:23 PM PDT
by
ThermoNuclearWarrior
(Obama is a fraud and is ineligible for the Presidency!)
To: americanophile
Me too! After a few more months of these clowns, maybe even liberals will see the light.
To: Oldeconomybuyer
I think it says volumns about America when we would elect a neophyte with almost no experience. But a man who has served his country in various capacities since the Gerry Ford presidency, but he was discounted because he was GW’s VP? The man has more brains in his little finger than Biden has in his whole brain.
Too bad the media created Bush derangement syndrome is as bad as it is. The saddest part of the ideal it is likely to be the death of the Republic.
To: Oldeconomybuyer
We are all familiar with the logical fallacies associated with argument by analogy but this author is arguing by fantasy.
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posted on
04/27/2009 5:13:15 PM PDT
by
nathanbedford
("Attack, repeat attack!" Bull Halsey)
To: Oldeconomybuyer
I'm confused
This is in the NYT.
Was there a shift in the time continuum ???
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posted on
04/27/2009 5:13:45 PM PDT
by
Popman
(Only one question remains: Does the sun rise because of Obama or does Obama rise because of the sun)
To: Oldeconomybuyer
I will buy the last edition of the New York Times.
It’ll be the first and only copy I ever purchase.
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posted on
04/27/2009 5:14:36 PM PDT
by
Peter W. Kessler
(Dirt is for racing... asphalt is for getting there.)
To: Oldeconomybuyer
Imagine for a moment that the New York Times and anything said on its editorial pages was actually relevant......
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posted on
04/27/2009 5:16:40 PM PDT
by
Radix
(We seek Liberty......They give us Debt.)
To: Popman
You have to read to the end to get to the predictable punchline. If Cheney had run, he would have been crushed and the Republican party could drop this damned true conservatism and become the Democrat-lite that everyone wants.
I think Cheney would have sliced Obama to shreds in the debates. A Cheney/Palin team would have been pretty awesome. He probably would have lost, but Republicans would certainly feel better about the effort.
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posted on
04/27/2009 5:16:54 PM PDT
by
tstarr
To: Popman
The author wishes Cheney had run so that “when he went down to a landslide loss, the conservative movement might might! have been jolted into the kind of rethinking thats necessary if it hopes to regain power.”
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posted on
04/27/2009 5:17:44 PM PDT
by
LibFreeOrDie
(Obama promised a gold mine, but he will give us the shaft.)
To: Oldeconomybuyer
The writer is basically an idiot. His underlying assumption is that if Cheney had run (and lost) it would have proved that conservatives can’t win elections.
Cheney would have lost because of his baggage, not because of his conservative principles, and this writer is an idiot not to be able to see that.
To: tstarr
Thanks for the jolt back to reality, I never click on the link for the slimes.
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posted on
04/27/2009 5:20:37 PM PDT
by
Popman
(Only one question remains: Does the sun rise because of Obama or does Obama rise because of the sun)
To: Oldeconomybuyer
I wonder if this guy got his pink slip 5 mins. after this printed.
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posted on
04/27/2009 5:20:40 PM PDT
by
fedupjohn
(If we try to fight the war on terror with eyes shut + ears packed with wax, innocent people will die)
To: Oldeconomybuyer
Real conservatism, in this narrative, means a particular strain of right-wingery: a conservatism of supply-side economics and stress positions, uninterested in social policy and dismissive of libertarian qualms about the national-security state. And Dick Cheney happens to be its diamond-hard distillation. The former vice-president kept his distance from the Bush administrations attempts at domestic reform, and he had little time for the idealistic, religiously infused side of his bosss policy agenda. He was for tax cuts at home and pre-emptive warfare overseas; anything else he seemed to disdain as sentimentalism. "Stress positions"?
Actually, do we really know what Cheney's economic views were? It didn't seem like tax cuts -- or spending cuts or anything else domestic -- were really a high priority for him.
It looks to me like what Douthat is saying is that if Cheney had run, the notion of "real conservatism" as something that hadn't been tried wouldn't be viable any more. But Cheney would have lost by more than McCain did -- which I guess is what Douthat would have wanted.
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posted on
04/27/2009 5:21:58 PM PDT
by
x
To: tstarr
I think Cheney would have sliced Obama to shreds in the debates. A Cheney/Palin team would have been pretty awesome. He probably would have lost, but Republicans would certainly feel better about the effort.Those who were left, sure.
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04/27/2009 5:23:07 PM PDT
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