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Possibility of Bio-Terrorism in Swine Flu Outbreak
April 25, 2007 | freedomfighter1013

Posted on 04/25/2009 5:51:39 AM PDT by FreedomFighter1013

In a discussion this morning with a cell biologist and medical doctor working at Johns Hopkins, my friend thought this 4-part flu combination is highly unusual and looks like it could be man-made. Especially because it has an avian strain. My doctor friend (he's Taiwanese) explained that in Asia, it's common for a avian-swine-human flu to happen naturally, but this virus first showed up in Mexico, where pigs and ducks are not usually raised together. Also, recombination of more than 2-different flu viruses is extremely rare. I'm just repeating what he said as an expert in the field. He says the CDC needs to explain if there is a possibility that we are under a bio-weapon attack.

From CDC via Wikipedia: Anne Schuchat, director of CDC's National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases, said that the American cases were found to be made up of genetic elements from four different flu viruses -- North American swine influenza, North American avian influenza, human influenza A virus subtype H1N1, and swine influenza virus typically found in Asia and Europe. For two cases a complete genome sequence had been obtained. She said that the virus was resistant to amantadine and rimantadine, but susceptible to oseltamivir (Tamiflu) and zanamivir (Relenza).[22][23][24] Preliminary genetic characterization found that the hemagglutinin (HA) gene was similar to that of swine flu viruses present in U.S. pigs since 1999, but the neuraminidase (NA) and matrix protein (M) genes resembled versions present in European swine flu isolates. Viruses with this genetic makeup had not previously been found to be circulating in humans or pigs, but there is no formal national surveillance system to determine what viruses are circulating in pigs in the U.S.[25] The seasonal influenza strain H1N1 vaccine is thought to be unlikely to provide protection.[26]


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bioterrorism; chat; flu; mexican; mexicanflu; notbreakingnews; outbreak; speculation; swine; swineflu; tm; virus
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To: bgill
this strain seems so far to infect the younger and healthier

This was also true of the 1918 pandemic, one reason it was so devastating.

One of the present theories is that the flu turns the body's own immune system against the body. Young, healthy adults with a strong immune system are therefore more susceptible than children and older people.

161 posted on 04/25/2009 9:12:05 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Everyone has a right to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.)
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To: Tarheel

People were harder back then. If you contracted TB or another contagion it was goodbye so long. They had these places called sanitariums. Most everyone lost someone to a contagious disease.


162 posted on 04/25/2009 9:12:34 AM PDT by kinghorse (I'm not saying. I'm just saying.)
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To: wtc911
WHO and CDC know more than they are saying.

If it was as serious as they are openly fearing it is, they would be down playing the threat. They would be trying to calm the public and prevent and over-reaction when it really heats up (if they thought it really would heat up).

Like the pirate circus, I think this is another distraction.

163 posted on 04/25/2009 9:15:36 AM PDT by nitzy (Take your pick: Globalism OR Limited Government)
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To: silverleaf

Man, if I were a lazy terrorist group, that’s what I’d do. Get to Mexico. Easy. Spread it around a few cities. Easy. Sit back on the beach with a cool drink and watch our open border policy spread it around the USA.


164 posted on 04/25/2009 9:15:52 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Perdogg

Hubby thinks this is a trial run for a bio attack. ANd Obama was exposed in Mexico city,,amazing thought.


165 posted on 04/25/2009 9:16:24 AM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: thecabal
Cue “Don’t Fear the Reaper”.

Back in the bad '70s, I knew a doper kid who thought the words were "Don't fear the reefer." [^)

Until I explained it, he had no idea who or what the Grim Reaper was! But those were the days when we thought "Time keeps on slippin' into the future" was, like, really profound, man!

166 posted on 04/25/2009 9:17:45 AM PDT by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent.)
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To: Lady GOP

New acting director at CDC,,insiders wonder if he is overreacting.


167 posted on 04/25/2009 9:19:28 AM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: FreedomFighter1013

it is strange that it vigorously affects males 25-44.

The bioterrorism route sounds plausible.


168 posted on 04/25/2009 9:19:35 AM PDT by model B (attitude is a little thing that makes a big difference -- Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: quesney
terrorists have been given yet another bright idea for attacking us

Please tell me you are not suggesting they havent thought of this on their own and that by reading this thread light bulbs went off in their heads on how they can kill the infidels by the millions.

169 posted on 04/25/2009 9:19:39 AM PDT by DogBarkTree (Support The American Tea Party)
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To: M0sby

send Chuck Norris


170 posted on 04/25/2009 9:20:37 AM PDT by Vendome
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To: 1000 silverlings

Someone is suing Baxter...

“I contend that a motive for Baxter for sparking the pandemic is profit.”

http://birdflu666.wordpress.com/


171 posted on 04/25/2009 9:21:37 AM PDT by toldyou (Even if the voices aren't real they have some pretty good ideas.)
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To: FreedomFighter1013
Here's my take:

Influenza A viruses mutate constantly and many human-avian-swine recombinants are known to exist in nature.

The molecular skills to engineer a virulent triple recombinant would challenge our best scientists, and it's unclear that even they could do it, ever.

The idea that ragheads in a cave could do this is ridiculous.

I vote for normal evolution.

172 posted on 04/25/2009 9:21:52 AM PDT by Jim Noble (They are willing to kill for socialism...but not to die for it.)
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To: Raebie

Does this you tube video make any sense?


173 posted on 04/25/2009 9:23:51 AM PDT by yorkie (Today - smile at a stranger. It may be the only smile that person has been given. It is a blessing)
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To: FreedomFighter1013

And not a peep so far from the Floppy Ears Administration...


174 posted on 04/25/2009 9:24:59 AM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: JavaJumpy
How about THIS pic to give you the creepies? It is at a home not far from ours and the owners are .... (whispers) Mexican. Photobucket Do you see what I'm talking about? (Hint, just left of center)
175 posted on 04/25/2009 9:25:33 AM PDT by kimmie7 (THE CROSS - Today, Tomorrow and Always!)
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To: Finny
Cue “Don’t Fear the Reaper”. Back in the bad '70s, I knew a doper kid who thought the words were "Don't fear the reefer." [^)

Until I explained it, he had no idea who or what the Grim Reaper was! But those were the days when we thought "Time keeps on slippin' into the future" was, like, really profound, man!


LOL! I’m still trying to figure out “The Pompatus of Love”
176 posted on 04/25/2009 9:26:27 AM PDT by Caramelgal (When the past no longer illuminates the future, the spirit walks in darkness.)
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To: kimmie7

Is it behind the missile?


177 posted on 04/25/2009 9:26:39 AM PDT by LukeL (Yasser Arafat: "I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize")
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To: M0sby
My son's ready to take his place.

Photobucket

Amazing what the kid can do with k'nex.

178 posted on 04/25/2009 9:27:27 AM PDT by kimmie7 (THE CROSS - Today, Tomorrow and Always!)
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To: LukeL

LOL

Can you believe that crap??


179 posted on 04/25/2009 9:27:49 AM PDT by kimmie7 (THE CROSS - Today, Tomorrow and Always!)
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To: Mom MD
I doubt this is bioterrorism. But keep in mind to cripple this country, a viral or disease outbreak does not need to have a high mortality rate. At any given time during flu season, there are no free hospital beds in most big cities, let alone ICU beds. Now add to that tens of thousands of people sick enough to seek medical care/need hospitalization, and the system would break overnight.

Then add the gross inefficiencies of nationalized health care and... poof!

180 posted on 04/25/2009 9:28:21 AM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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